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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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I’m also gonna pick a nit here and say “like a hot glue gun” is what you say about a MIG weld that is done entirely improperly. If the filler material is just acting like glue, you might be sticking metal together but you’re not welding. So this tongue-in-cheek description also misleads newbs into creating bad welds.

That is picking a nit. Bad welds are still welds, you just need more of them :p

It’s possible to weld so poorly that you are really brazing, not welding. And what a hot glue gun does is really analogous to brazing rather than welding.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#582
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There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Even before this there was the bleach strawberries to make them white before using them video.

Ann Reardon has done a great job debunking all the stupid 5 minute crafts BS but it’s an uphill battle. YouTube being trash doesn’t help.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Tom Cruise is a really bad example, because he actually does have a pilot license since 1994 and is allowed to fly some jets. [0] I'm not looking for advice on how to make a good movie (or how to fly a plane, for that matter), but on some perspective how (un)-realistic those movies are. I think overall that sort of scrutiny does some good in terms of making movies less unrealistic (compare 80's action movies like Ram…

> Tom Cruise is a really bad example, because he actually does have a pilot license since 1994 and is allowed to fly some jets Some jet ... but not the jets in the movie! So what's the point in getting a Navy pilot to watch him "flying" them? Apart from - of course - being able to make clickbaity videos showing their "reactions". > perspective how (un)-realistic those movies are Erm, why? Movies are movies. There's l…

Cruise owns an L39 trainer (and the Mustang that was at the end of the movie). It’s a bad ass jet.

It’s A LITTLE HARD to own an F18, I have zero doubt he has dozens of hours on them though. Same with the F14 which there are a few privately owned.

You picked a bad example. Just move on.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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There's not much more than that to it: high voltage, high current and exposed wires. It does not take a PhD to understand what can go bad.

It actually does "take a PhD." Having insulated wires can still be dangerous with a high enough voltage because of dielectric breakdown. Furthermore even if you don't get electrocuted but have a vacuum chamber with high voltages you can get irradiated. What I would have liked is, "OK this here wire is where the high voltage is, if you touch it you will get hurt and possibly die. If you need to manipulate it use long…

The very first comment in the thread links to a video which does the exact thing you are wishing for. The video explains why the experiment is stupidly dangerous then gives tips on how one could make it safer. (But not safe.)

Note, it has nothing to do with plastic tongs. The main danger, according to the youtuber, is that you turn on the aparatus, get momentarily distracted, and forget that it is on and touch the wood or the electrodes.

He offers multiple mitigations:

- indicators which show when the transformer is energised. He in fact recommends two separate paralel indicators. An audible one and a visual one.

- momentary switches where you physicaly can’t forget them on. Two switch in an “AND” configuration, where you need both of your hands to actuate them, so you can’t accidentally try to adjust an electrode with one hand while the other is energising the system.

He in fact goes further and recommends some fancy specialist switches, which turn off if you push them too hard as a result of a muscle spasm from an accidental electrocution.

So now you need to make a complicated electronic setup with multiple independent indicators, and specialist switches and yet the project is still not safe! There are still multiple things which can go wrong where a simple and inocous action leads to instant death.

It is a thing which is easy to do unsafe, and relatively hard to so safe.

At which point can we simplify the advice to the general population into “don’t do it”?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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There is a whole genre of people building "by hand" underground pools and other crazy structures in the jungles. Aside from being terribly unsafe, if you look closely you can often see marks in the dirt from machine tools that they forgot to smooth away in the soft clay.

I think those are all knockoffs of the Primitive Technology channel.

Which is, itself, very, very good.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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> The outlet was stuck in the wall box so I reached a flathead screwdriver in to try and pry it out, and turned my screwdriver into an arc welder for a second. I've got a screwdriver that incorporates a non-contact AC current sensor. Mine is a Gardner Bender SDT-354 [1] that I think I bought at Home Depot or Lowe's. When the current sensor is turned on if you bring the tip of the screwdriver near a live AC wire an LE…

Cool story! I have a brand new screwdriver set from the other end of the safety spectrum. Every one had a warning sticker saying 'non-insulating handle' on the plastic/rubber handle. I'm not sure where they found conductive plastic, but had I known before purchase, I'd have gone with a different set.

It's not necessarily that the handle is conductive after all (it likely isn't, but there are conductive polymers out there -- I've made some in Chemistry class), but rather that it hasn't been tested and certified for its insulating properties (e.g. the VDE 1000V classification). They're covering their ass by saying that it's not intended to be an insulating handle because they didn't design it to be.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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You need about 24 volts to overcome the skins resistance. Most PCs use some combination of 3, 5, and 12 volt rails so you should be fine, as long as you avoid licking anything. Edit: Some PSUs have -12 +12 rails, I suppose if you were really unlucky and grabbed both at once the 24v differential could give you a zap.

The -12v rails are typically low current though. The real danger is a poorly built supply or an electrolytic capacitor exploding in your face (had this happen once). Incidentally, does anyone know what the -12v rails are used for? Some kind of reference?

If memory serves, the -12V rail is useful for onboard audio op-amps.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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You need about 24 volts to overcome the skins resistance. Most PCs use some combination of 3, 5, and 12 volt rails so you should be fine, as long as you avoid licking anything. Edit: Some PSUs have -12 +12 rails, I suppose if you were really unlucky and grabbed both at once the 24v differential could give you a zap.

The -12v rails are typically low current though. The real danger is a poorly built supply or an electrolytic capacitor exploding in your face (had this happen once). Incidentally, does anyone know what the -12v rails are used for? Some kind of reference?

RS-232 drivers like the old MC1488 were run off plus and minus 12 volt supplies. DRAMS like the MK4116 also required a low current -5V bias supply. And there were other chips that possibly needed a -5V supply. Since the -5V was low current you could generate it off the -12V with a simple linear regulator.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Sata is hotswappable. IDE was not. And I believe m.2 would be if the connector was designed a little different, because that’s all u.2 is. Compact Flash Express is, but again, that’s NVMe and splitting hairs between u.2. Typically on hot swappable devices it’s been common to make the ground pins a little longer than the rest, ensuring that those will make contact first. The issue with hot swappable devices aside from…

> no data transfer will happen until you reboot I think this is something the OS can override. If I remember correctly I could discover a hotplugged SATA device in Windows by using "Scan for new hardware" in the Device Manager.

More specifically, the system's firmware AHCI hotplugging configuration only applies to the system firmware.

That is to say, if hotplugging is disabled on your SATA controller, then the firmware won't see a new SATA drive if you plug it in while the machine is running. So, for example, you won't get a UEFI boot menu entry for it if you go to the boot override section that presents all of your storage devices.

Once the operating system takes over, that's all a moot point. Whether hot-plugging was disabled in your firmware settings or not, if the OS supports it, it will work. Both Microsoft's AHCI driver (msahci.sys) and the Linux "ahci" kernel module (or built-in) support hot-plugging.

On my Windows desktop with an Intel SATA chipset, hot-plugging a drive did cause Windows to briefly drop all other drives on that controller before re-enumerating all of them, which lead to a BSoD because one of those drives was the drive with Windows itself on it. However, this was solved by installing Intel's chipset-specific driver (Intel Rapid Storage Technology, iaStorV.sys) and tweaking the registry to have that one start at early boot instead of msahci.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#590

At scale, whack-a-mole take-downs and trying to idiot-proof the internet just feel kinda futile. A suggested ( IANAL ) alternative, for "dangerous ways to maim or kill yourself" YouTube content: - A "Report Being A Dangerous Thing To Try" YouTube page - with a few drop-downs, to summarize why it's dangerous. (High Voltage, Poison, Explosive, Fire Hazard, Dangerous Animals, Motor Vehicle Stunts, etc.) - Verified-as-da…

Warnings like these can become diluted if the context of these reports are not specific enough. Listing rock climbing free solo deaths on videos of people top rope climbing will get an eye roll from people and make it easier to disregard. It's also not fair to communities that understand the risks of what they are doing to see these reminders of dangers they are already aware of.
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