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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

It's a fun idea, but I must say I have discovered quite by chance that an inexpensive toaster oven is the tool for this job - as well as countless other jobs.

Not just toasting bruschetta - it's secretly a $60 patio oven, opening the door to things like baking fish mid-July without heating or smelling up the house.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#263

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> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

I've been looking for a toaster that works as well as the ones made 60 years ago. And for once, a marketing page has me convinced to pry open my wallet.

But there is no link or button anywhere on the page that tells me how to buy one. :(

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Every electrician I have met, has had some kind of shock in their career. Mostly it is a small induced current issue, which can easily kill you if it knocks you off a ladder....

No matter how many times I see someone changing computer parts while the power is still connected, if I'm doing it I always unplug the power then pressing the power button to ensure it's unpowered

The idea is also that pressing the power button will also help discharge some capacitors as the power-supply tries to supply power. Not sure to which degree this works to make things safer, but trying it won't hurt.

(Note this will _not_ make a powersupply safe to open up)

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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So drop it off at a salvage location. OP was complaining about salvaging it, like it was necessary. If you want to do is as a fun personal project, go for it, but it is wasteful of human time to salvage something that cheap rather than add it to a scrap pile for a professional salvage company to process in bulk. As a bonus, the kid learns that if you arent careful with your items they may break and be gone. you dont…

It's only monetarily cheap because it's been built, like most modern things, with a massive externalization of its waste-cost.

Same for toilet paper but we flush it anyway. Everyone in this thread is suddenly zero-waste zealots.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Every electrician I have met, has had some kind of shock in their career. Mostly it is a small induced current issue, which can easily kill you if it knocks you off a ladder....

No matter how many times I see someone changing computer parts while the power is still connected, if I'm doing it I always unplug the power then pressing the power button to ensure it's unpowered

You need about 24 volts to overcome the skins resistance. Most PCs use some combination of 3, 5, and 12 volt rails so you should be fine, as long as you avoid licking anything.

Edit: Some PSUs have -12 +12 rails, I suppose if you were really unlucky and grabbed both at once the 24v differential could give you a zap.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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I remember watching some electricians rewiring some stuff at my old workplace. We were moving into a new office, and had to have some light switches changed for the new zone. The electrician popped open the switch plates, yanked out the old switches, clipped the wires, stripped the wires, wired up the new switches, and screwed everything back together. It was all live (like 300 volt live), as the lights turned on (qu…

It obviously can be done, and I've heard folks more experienced than I say "all ya gotta do...", and I'll admit that I might have even wired a switch/outlet myself without flipping the breaker. And a pro could probably get away with it for a long time. But it just sounds like something that is one distraction away from a bad day.

In the UK, as far as the Health & Safety Executive goes, who are the people who will be hauling you up in court if your screwups cause injury or death, they go to great lengths to discourage working live if at all possible.

That said, it is sometimes necessary. I've replaced a circuit protective device in a live electrical panel in a commercial setting before. As you point out, avoiding distraction is a very important factor. That means no chit-chat, no-one overlooking and critiquing what you're doing, noise to a minimum, all of the tools you'll need prepared up-front, etc.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

I think the people replying to you to nitpick are missing the forest for the trees.

You (and many people) have to wait until university to learn this stuff if you didn't seek it out yourself (how-to's and electives in school). This kind of knowledge should be taught at a young age to demystify it.

A few hours in uni (and how many people never even go), to learn life-saving information

When I did appliance repair microwaves were treated as bombs. You didn't test your components live, you always unplugged first, etc.

Still walked into another tech working on one (cabinet-mounted up high), with the cover off, barely on a wobbly stove-dolly and his expensive Fluke multimeter out with leads in hand.

I noticed the plug still lifted up into the cabinet so I peeked in and sure enough it was plugged in.

Big red warning signs on the power cable, the covers inside and the cover outside all had warnings. Dude had been through the same training I had, and still thought it was a good idea. "I'll just stay away from the high side",he said.

edit to add this microwave had an external fuse. All you had to do was unscrew it and check the fuse inside- which was bad. He hadn't had to do any of the stuff he'd done prior to my arrival. They'd had an electrical surge when the power had gone out and the fuse had caught it. This tech had been on the job longer than I. end edit

Even people trained and with knowledge make mistakes and sometimes are just plain stupid.

People without knowledge can be dangers to themselves and others.

Texas had a rash of house explosions a few years ago from people raiding copper and power wires from empty houses with live gas lines.

I think the answer is educating and many people as possible, from as young an age as possible.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Plenty of people hate this shit and still watch it because they got tricked. I watched (skimmed) like 12 videos yesterday trying to find a hack to locate my empty AirPods case. There’s apparently no way to do it but each video had a more infuriatingly false title than the last.

It would never even occur to me to watch a video on finding my AirPods case. Either there is an article or forum post for it, or I need to post a question on a forum, but no way am I sifting through the garbage that is YouTube.

Same. It's probably a generational thing, with the split at maybe 20 or something where video became both searchable and trivial in terms of bandwidth.

But, to be fair, the Google-as-front-door internet has become totally useless for these types of tasks as well. Those wiki-style pages with huge walls of text offering nonsense advice are a plague.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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When I was young and stupid, I did this. Suddenly felt some tingling sensation in my fingers, threw the leads away and jumped back. Most certainly saved my life and drilled in my head how dangerous it is. Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads, remembering that day. Especially after knowing people who got into 120KV, and what happened to them... Electri…

I had a similar experience in completely different circumstances. I was hiking in the mountains with my dad and some friends when a storm cloud rolled over us. It wasn't raining yet, but one of us noticed that if he raised a metal hiking pole above his head there was a tingling feeling. We all were trying it when my dad caught up and said "what are you doing you idiots, drop those poles, crouch down, and start praying".

Thankfully there were no strikes, and after a couple of minutes the cloud had passed. Electricity is dangerous!

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