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The problem is not people being tricked, but vegan food simply needs proper names. "Vegan steak" is not meat, so what it? What is vegan cheese? Could be anything. It's not very descriptive. When you see seitan or tofu, you know what you're getting.
Cheese is not about dairy or fermentation, it's about that funky cheesy flavour and texture. It's about fulfilling a certain role in our culinary tradition.
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The problem is not people being tricked, but vegan food simply needs proper names. "Vegan steak" is not meat, so what it? What is vegan cheese? Could be anything. It's not very descriptive. When you see seitan or tofu, you know what you're getting.
What's "head cheese"? Hint: not a new phrase.
Everyone knows what a vegetarian sausage is, no meat eater is accidentally buying it thinking it is something it's not and it helps people identify what the thing is.
What else are you going to call it? It's the obvious name because that is what it is, the words should evolve to describe the type of thing it is, not that it needs to include meat in it.
Sausage is used to describe the shape, hence sausage dogs.
At most all the law needs to be is to make sure instead of just 'sausage' is used that it has to be 'vegan sausage' or 'vegetarian sausage' if it doesn't have meat, if you must put a law around this.
Good move. Nothing against vegan ‘meat’, but simply call it what it really is.
There is no confusing them, everyone knows what they are, meat eaters and non meat eaters alike.
It describes the product, not that it contains meat, yes vegan 'meat' would be a bit of a silly description, but vegan burger, vegan sausage, vegan nugget is not for example, that is all that needs to be used and it's clear for everyone, start calling them vegan discs or vegan tubes and it's just strange.
Yes, yes! This is common sense. Do not try and ride the coattails of existing products to sell a product that is the opposite of the products it's pretending to be. Be honest. It's an plant-based protein burrito it's not a damned "chik'n burrito" or "sliced cheeze". And don't get me started with the "milks". It's a freaking emulsion oat-grain emulsion, or oat beverage. What's nexy Coca-cola with a white fizzy drink,…
For example you get beef and pork sausages, this refers to the type of sausage you are getting, what is the difference with vegan sausage? Everyone knows what that is, calling it a different name makes it harder to understand what it actually is and since that is the purpose of language/names in this instance, the correct term should be vegan sausage.
In your example what helps most people understand what it is? If it was labelled "oat-grain emulsion" it sounds like some kinda paint to me where as oat milk is exceptionally clear.
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Ah, the “you’re holding it wrong” argument re-contextualized as “you’re just shopping wrong”. Unfortunately that is not always the case. I don’t know about the parent but I accidentally bought a “Chick’n Burrito” that was right next to the meat burritos. It did not taste like chicken. Could it have been avoided had I been more careful? Sure! On the other hand vegan dishes taste better than fake meat dishes and I real…
...no, in this case you are absolutely shopping wrong. Pay attention to the labels.
If you want to sell some vegetables or vegetable oil to vegans, I would have thought that vegans would go for it without the unappetizing association with dead, smelly, greasy animal carcasses.
Why does vegan food have to resemble the things that vegans avoid?
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So in French it could be: Steak végétal => Steakal or Stékal Saucisse végétale => Saucissal or Saucissal Done
The vegan community in France already uses names like "Faucisse" and "Fauxmage" based on "Faux + Saucisse" and "Faux + Fromage". I believe there's also "Vromage" (Vegan + Fromage).
Cargill, Danone and Nestle. Those companies, they are exemplars of environmentally responsible, ethical production of high-quality nutritious food that respects animal rights and human health:
> Cargill: the company feeding the world by helping destroy the planet
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2020/11/25/cargill-deforest...
> Cost of environmental damage linked to Nestlé, Danone and Mondelez rises sharply
> "A lot of major global corporations have effectively outsourced their environmental impact to their supply chains," said Dexter Galvin, global director of corporations and supply chains at CDP, a nonprofit group that collects environmental data from companies. "It's a blind spot, which means that most of their carbon emissions, water use and impact on deforestation escape public scrutiny."
https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights...
> Animal rights campaigners are now urging the public to boycott Danone, Nestle and Yakult to stop the animal suffering.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/600145/Nestle-Yakult-and-D...
> Multiple reports have documented the widespread use of child labour in cocoa production, as well as slavery and child trafficking, throughout West African plantations, on which Nestlé and other major chocolate companies rely.[159][160][161][162][163] According to the 2010 documentary, The Dark Side of Chocolate, the children working are typically 12 to 15 years old.[164] The Fair Labor Association has criticised Nestlé for not carrying out proper checks.[165]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9#Slavery_and_child_...
In September 2017, an investigation[215] conducted by NGO Mighty Earth found that a large amount of the cocoa used in chocolate produced by Nestlé and other major chocolate companies was grown illegally in national parks and other protected areas in Ivory Coast and Ghana.[216][217][218] The countries are the world's two largest cocoa producers.[219][220]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9#Deforestation
I mean, who else would be investing in fake sausages?
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Was thinking this is going to lead to some cringey product names. "veak" and "vausage" for the uncreative and it goes downhill from there. Our family calls it "feat" for "fake meat"
I'm trademarking 5teak, 5ausage, Chee5e and Mi7k.
Klim™
I guess Keats™ is taken, and I can't trademark Team™, but I'll try.