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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by an1sotropy »

astura wrote: post #95
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Ann Reardon's (subject of this article) channel calls out these other channels and she even tries to recreate these fake crafts to prove they are fake.

Yes! The fact that one of Ann Reardon's main interests is in debunking stupid/dangerous craft and cooking videos, and yet her video is the one getting taken down, is an important irony that seems lost on the author of the boingboing post, and many other commenters here.

My kids and I love watching her videos, especially for iron-stomach Dave eating whatever she cooks, and learning the occasional Australian slang (" as" == "very ")

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Post by usrusr »

InefficientRed wrote: post #71
honkdaddy wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just looked into it.. Ugh, this kind of content is just abysmal. 25 GLUE GUN HACKS YOU HAVE TO TRY 24 SIMPLE BEAUTY TRICKS TO MAKE YOU LOOK FABULOUS https://www.youtube.com/c/5MinuteCraftsYouTube/ Who are the people watching this stuff? I assume it's largely women and parents, as a lot of the "hacks" are beauty or parenting related. I watched a few minutes and all the ideas were just... terrible? Ranging from silly…

Stay At Home Mom is a massive market segment with a lot of purchasing decision power. Long-form advertising targeted at SAHMs is nearly as old as the advertising industry itself. This is just the next iteration. Video does particularly well with this segment (as opposed to text) because of the nature of parenting and housekeeping -- lots of time spent on your feet with busy hands and occasionally available eyes. The…

Soap opera of the YouTube era, you might be on to something!

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Post by tarsinge »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #62
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps". Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

Maybe they meant high voltage amps

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Post by trelane »

LandR wrote: post #112
anonymous0 wrote: post #82

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You are not alone. Moreover, I was honestly thinking that was the way _everybody_ did it.

Would never have occured to me try and make cheese and toast in a toaster, although the cage someone mentioned is something I need to check out! I make my cheese and toast in a frying pan (I honestly thought this was way _everybody_ did it :D )

I make grilled cheese that way. If you want a toasted/baked option instead, toaster ovens exist and are fabulous for this sort of thing.

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Post by mrtksn »

framapotari wrote: post #317
effingwewt wrote: post #310

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Of course you do, as long as it's not illegal. People forget even TV had public access, which could get pretty ridiculous back in the day. Your argument is old, tired, and nonsensical.

Where is this right to a broadcasting platform to publish anything you wish as long as it is legal enumerated?

Depending on your dictatorship, it will be different everywhere.

In free countries you just broadcast. It's like the right to eat pancakes, it's not specifically regulated. Of course there are rules of what you are allowed to do or not, for example you can't broadcast in specific frequencies because those are licensed and if you like to do that you need to purchase a license. If you broadcast using loudspeakers, you will have regulations on the loudness of it.

The commercial license might come with its own limitations. Depending on your location, you might get into trouble if you take advertisements for drugs or cigarettes or alcohol. You can lose your license over it but your broadcasting equipment wont try stopping you from doing it.

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Post by hedora »

CM30 wrote: post #32

YouTube's moderation is ridiculous, and it demonstrates the problem Google has in general. They don't like paying actual people to moderate their sites, and rely on automated systems and bots to do everything for them. So, if there's ever an issue (or you have a bunch of scammers mass reporting you because you debunk their 'work'), then YouTube/Google seems to think you're the problem instead of the scumbags. We need…

This case pretty clearly crosses the line into criminal negligence / manslaughter / murder. If they were are book publisher or TV network, someone at Google would be facing jail time.

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Post by krapp »

effingwewt wrote: post #310
lancesells wrote: post #124

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> Just as with the real world, people need to develop the right habits to stay safe. Just as with the real world, you don't have a right to a broadcasting platform for anything you wish.

Of course you do, as long as it's not illegal. People forget even TV had public access, which could get pretty ridiculous back in the day. Your argument is old, tired, and nonsensical.

Public access tv (in the US at least) is actually a private platform, you do not have the right to broadcast anything you with on it "as long as it's not illegal."

As with newspapers, magazines, radio, social media platforms, etc., the owners public access tv stations are allowed to exercise editorial discretion with regards to what they publish. There was actually a landmark Supreme Court case about it:[0]

[0]https://www.commlawblog.com/2019/06/articles/broadcast/supre...

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Post by lttlrck »

samizdis wrote: post #56
logifail wrote: post #21

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> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

The clockwork timer on mine broke, so I bought a replacement and repaired it.

I bought it in Europe so it was 220v. When I moved to the US I purchased 110v heater elements and swapped them out.

It's metal, held together with screws, and toasts bread. It's perfect.

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Post by an1sotropy »

bell-cot wrote: post #198
mberning wrote: post #63

They can auto generate warning messages on every video even tangentially referencing the c-word for 2 years, but they let this kind of thing slide for years and years.

Ignoring the politics & posturing, my impression is that the number of people dead due to stupidity about COVID-19 is a few orders of magnitude larger than the number of people dead due to this sort of video.

I don't think the point was about the relative number of dead; I think it the observation that YT clearly has the technology to automatically annotate content, but declines to use it for things (like dangerous hacks) where it could save lives.

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Post by ugjka »

edianorh wrote: post #116

Playing with microwaves carries many risks. Even without getting electricity involved, the magnetron contains beryllium oxide which can be fatal to humans if it gets into the lungs. Just to disassemble one, you need to know what the magnetron looks like and not try to disassemble it. Like many other appliances, it has capacitors, which may remain charged for a long time too. Those are dangerous too.

Thank God we didn't have any microwave ovens when I was a kid because I liked to disassemble everything

But there was one capacitor from a photo flashlight that was close to killing me if I touched the ends, but thankfully it discharged on my screwdriver

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