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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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LtWorf wrote: post #44
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

I've been putting cheese in the vertical toaster my whole life… he just did it wrong. You have to put 2 slices of bread, cheese in between, and of course take it out before it all starts burning.

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by anonymous0 »

LtWorf wrote: post #44
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

I've been putting cheese in the vertical toaster my whole life… he just did it wrong. You have to put 2 slices of bread, cheese in between, and of course take it out before it all starts burning.

You are not alone. Moreover, I was honestly thinking that was the way _everybody_ did it.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by rozab »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Ann Reardon, the subject of this article, is a good scientist who's been debunking these 'food hack' videos for years. She eventually branched out into debunking other things like this.

I've always been impressed with her tenacity in challenging this sort of thing while also managing to educate and entertain. It must be soul destroying trying to fight this endless tide of misinformation, which is constantly boosted by the youtube algorithm.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by Dudeman112 »

samizdis wrote: post #56
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

Generally I'm salty at people going full sales mode. But this time? I'm not even mad

Sandwich cages are the kind technological solution people in general just have something of a blind spot against. Made myself a note if I decide to buy a toaster when I move next year

Ah, the wonders of technology and engineering :)

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by reportingsjr »

HideousKojima wrote: post #50
exar0815 wrote: post #8

When I was young and stupid, I did this. Suddenly felt some tingling sensation in my fingers, threw the leads away and jumped back. Most certainly saved my life and drilled in my head how dangerous it is. Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads, remembering that day. Especially after knowing people who got into 120KV, and what happened to them... Electri…

I had one the other week where I was replacing an outlet in the kitchen. I flipped the kitchen breaker and the lights and appliances all turned off. I skipped the important step of actually testing the outlet and stupidly assumed it no longer had power. Turns out it was on a different circuit from the rest of the kitchen. The outlet was stuck in the wall box so I reached a flathead screwdriver in to try and pry it ou…

I made the mistake of not testing _all_ of the wires in an outlet a couple of months ago.

I used a non contact voltmeter, and had shut off the breaker to the outlet I was working on. Little did I know that the jackass that did some previous wiring in the house had run wires from a different breaker in to this box. It was done in such a way that I didn't fully realize it could have separate live.

My palm below my thumb touched the live and neutral and gave me a pretty solid shock.

I'll definitely test every single freaking wire in a box from now on. F people who try to play electrician without knowing what they are doing!

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by poulpy123 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #35

Imperfect moderation is inevitable at the massive scale of social media companies. YouTube receives an enormous quantity of video every day and it’s clearly impossible to have humans review all of it. If we humans did review every single minute of video, the subjective element of moderation would still lead to headlines like this where someone could identify instances of inconsistencies. Given that she re-uploaded th…

nothing is perfect but google has a market capitalization of 1.5 trillion dollars, i'm sure they can afford to remove of put warning on dangerous videos

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by ajross »

logifail wrote: post #21
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

> Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh!

I know it's tempting to blame modern technological monstrosities for this nonsense, but kids were lighting toasters on fire before the internet.

Source: lit a toaster on fire, prior to the January 1983 IPv4 migration on the ARPANET (and long before I knew what any of that meant).

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by donatj »

kzrdude wrote: post #64
colejohnson66 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.

I can't watch Electroboom because he always gives himself shocks in every video. Don't care that they are small or it's set up, I can't stand watching it, makes me ill. Seems to be interesting stories he's telling otherwise though, so it's a shame.

Why so? That’s honestly the whole reason I started watching him years ago, he was the dude who shocked himself.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by gravypod »

exar0815 wrote: post #8

When I was young and stupid, I did this. Suddenly felt some tingling sensation in my fingers, threw the leads away and jumped back. Most certainly saved my life and drilled in my head how dangerous it is. Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads, remembering that day. Especially after knowing people who got into 120KV, and what happened to them... Electri…

> Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads

If you would like to get into the psychology of someone like this I am a big fan of watching photonic induction: https://www.youtube.com/user/Photonvids

He is, seemingly, a power company tech from the UK who just really loves high voltage and messes with it in his home with his buddy.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by mrtksn »

framapotari wrote: post #74
mrtksn wrote: post #60

We really need to finish with this content removal business and simply hold people accountable for the content. In other words, YouTube or any "utility level" platform should not have the right to remove content by its own and just request information to protect itself. For example, if someone is posting about something harmful the videos should remain and the person who does that should face the consequences. It's n…

> For example, if someone is posting about something harmful the videos should remain and the person who does that should face the consequences. Ok, so now a video is up and people are tricked by it and injure themselves in the process. Some people die. Is that an acceptable cost? Does your solution make any considerations for ongoing harm?

Sue the person who uploaded the video, as it happens with all the malicious activities with the real world.

Sure, we can have tools to reduce risk - maybe there can be a warning under the video that the contents are disputed and some people claimed harm. If those people are lying the video uploader can sue them.

Just because some people don't know how to behave and have delusions that nothing is real on the internet, we can't have total speech control in an attempt of "saving the kids".

Just as with the real world, people need to develop the right habits to stay safe.

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