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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by InefficientRed »

honkdaddy wrote: post #42
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

I just looked into it.. Ugh, this kind of content is just abysmal. 25 GLUE GUN HACKS YOU HAVE TO TRY 24 SIMPLE BEAUTY TRICKS TO MAKE YOU LOOK FABULOUS https://www.youtube.com/c/5MinuteCraftsYouTube/ Who are the people watching this stuff? I assume it's largely women and parents, as a lot of the "hacks" are beauty or parenting related. I watched a few minutes and all the ideas were just... terrible? Ranging from silly…

Stay At Home Mom is a massive market segment with a lot of purchasing decision power. Long-form advertising targeted at SAHMs is nearly as old as the advertising industry itself. This is just the next iteration.

Video does particularly well with this segment (as opposed to text) because of the nature of parenting and housekeeping -- lots of time spent on your feet with busy hands and occasionally available eyes. The same reason radio/long-form podcasting is popular with truckers. Or text with office workers (relatively speaking). It's entertainment you can engage with during work hours between or during tasks.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by viraptor »

logifail wrote: post #27
viraptor wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just fabricated for the views, but reactions too. For each debunking video, some will follow the actual videos to see how bad they are. But the viewer intention doesn't matter - clicks are clicks.

> Not just fabricated for the views, but reactions too I regard videos which include the word "reacts" in the title as having a huge red flag. The signal-to-noise on this junk content is simply appalling.

I meant reactions in general, not just the reaction videos. "hey, look at this stupid video I've found" is a click as well.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by skummetmaelk »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

A glaring example of how the advertising business model incentives lead to the worst outcomes for everyone. People working at TheSoul Publishing literally waste their lives producing straight up harmful content and the consumers either get brainrot from watching it or risk serious injury and death from replicating it.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by framapotari »

mrtksn wrote: post #60

We really need to finish with this content removal business and simply hold people accountable for the content. In other words, YouTube or any "utility level" platform should not have the right to remove content by its own and just request information to protect itself. For example, if someone is posting about something harmful the videos should remain and the person who does that should face the consequences. It's n…

> For example, if someone is posting about something harmful the videos should remain and the person who does that should face the consequences.

Ok, so now a video is up and people are tricked by it and injure themselves in the process. Some people die. Is that an acceptable cost? Does your solution make any considerations for ongoing harm?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by kordlessagain »

logifail wrote: post #21
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

We had an employee who once tried cooking bacon in a toaster oven and it caught on fire. Filled the office with smoke, so it happens.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by musingsole »

doubleunplussed wrote: post #43
seedless-sensat wrote: post #34

Would have loved to see a source of "34 fractal wood burning deaths in America"

Here's a list: https://www.woodturner.org/Woodturner/Resources/Safety-Mater...

Example from the parent's link: """ Upper Caboolture, Queensland, Australia Reported by: Energy Source & Distribution Death: Liam Keegan, age 17 March 23, 2021 """

^ Many don't list the age, but this one did. And it made me sad.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by shiftpgdn »

honkdaddy wrote: post #42
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

I just looked into it.. Ugh, this kind of content is just abysmal. 25 GLUE GUN HACKS YOU HAVE TO TRY 24 SIMPLE BEAUTY TRICKS TO MAKE YOU LOOK FABULOUS https://www.youtube.com/c/5MinuteCraftsYouTube/ Who are the people watching this stuff? I assume it's largely women and parents, as a lot of the "hacks" are beauty or parenting related. I watched a few minutes and all the ideas were just... terrible? Ranging from silly…

Little kids. My 7 year old loves five minute craft videos.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by civilized »

logifail wrote: post #21
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

Waffle iron. It's a horizontal toaster and applies enough pressure to cook faster. Leaves cool marks.

Just don't burn yourself! (Technically applies to the toaster as well though)

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by hef19898 »

logifail wrote: post #27
viraptor wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just fabricated for the views, but reactions too. For each debunking video, some will follow the actual videos to see how bad they are. But the viewer intention doesn't matter - clicks are clicks.

> Not just fabricated for the views, but reactions too I regard videos which include the word "reacts" in the title as having a huge red flag. The signal-to-noise on this junk content is simply appalling.

The one reason I still have Youtube, after getting rid of everything else Google, is the effort I out over time into getting rid of a whole bunch crappy content proposals on my attached account. Every once in a while I have to block some channels, overall it is acceptable. Once in a while I end up on Youtube without being logged in, man is it a mess. As bad as the proposals on Internet Explorers starting page I see at work.
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