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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by toxik »

exar0815 wrote: post #8

When I was young and stupid, I did this. Suddenly felt some tingling sensation in my fingers, threw the leads away and jumped back. Most certainly saved my life and drilled in my head how dangerous it is. Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads, remembering that day. Especially after knowing people who got into 120KV, and what happened to them... Electri…

And remember that RCDs or GFCIs are not the panacea they may seem like at first. All it takes is an unreferenced secondary and voila, ground faults are invisible.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by toxik »

usrn wrote: post #9
carrolldunham wrote: post #5

I noticed I feel literally unsafe watching any DIY video on there now that the dislikes are gone. I realize I'm proceeding in a place where I relied on a warning system that has been taken away.

Don't you have empathy for poor creators like the executive branch of the US federal government though? The dislike button was making things rough for them.

I swear, the YouTube staff was just salty about the ratios on their cringe-fest Rewind videos.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by api »

elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

Wait until more DIY EV servicing videos start appearing. If you short something across a decent size EV battery it will be converted into plasma and deposited on your face.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by viraptor »

carrolldunham wrote: post #5

I noticed I feel literally unsafe watching any DIY video on there now that the dislikes are gone. I realize I'm proceeding in a place where I relied on a warning system that has been taken away.

There's a workaround:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dis...

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by orangepurple »

carrolldunham wrote: post #5

I noticed I feel literally unsafe watching any DIY video on there now that the dislikes are gone. I realize I'm proceeding in a place where I relied on a warning system that has been taken away.

There are browser extensions which crowd source YouTube dislikes now that the API is completely gone like "Return YouTube Dislike"

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by Gigachad »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Just the other day youtube suggested me this cutsie "what to do with old microwaves" video that just had the corporate jingle music over a video of a guy building various things out of microwave transformers without any kind of narration or warning of the danger.

Considering people are actually dying trying these microwave tricks, this is no longer a theoretical concern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8 (much later the author added a warning saying this is for entertainment only)

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by mcherm »

avsteele wrote: post #6

It could easily be the case that a popular channel warning 'DON'T DO THIS' could make the situation worse by telling more people about an idea they would never have heard of otherwise. The fact that some (presumably less seen) videos haven't been removed (yet) doesn't change this calculus.

That is a very creative excuse but it cannot explain why this video which described the dangers of the practice and did not explain in detail how to go about doing. It would be removed when none of the videos that demonstrate how to do this were taken down.

I think a much more plausible explanation is that YouTube simply does not have an effective mechanism for deciding what videos to take down and which ones to leave up.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by ngvrnd »

api wrote: post #13
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

Wait until more DIY EV servicing videos start appearing. If you short something across a decent size EV battery it will be converted into plasma and deposited on your face.

where your face recently was.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by viraptor »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Not just fabricated for the views, but reactions too. For each debunking video, some will follow the actual videos to see how bad they are. But the viewer intention doesn't matter - clicks are clicks.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by starkd »

avsteele wrote: post #6

It could easily be the case that a popular channel warning 'DON'T DO THIS' could make the situation worse by telling more people about an idea they would never have heard of otherwise. The fact that some (presumably less seen) videos haven't been removed (yet) doesn't change this calculus.

Thats an extremely negative view of people's ability. There's a point where you have to realize you can't protect people from themselves. A video that simply provides knowledge in an accessible way without preaching and condescension does far more than an outright ban that gives the viewer no information.
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