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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#31
Censorship sucks but when its it YouTube's responsibility to protect idiots from themselves? If they removed these videos are they still responsible for people attempting the stunt because they heard about it there six months ago?

I demand the freedom to suffer the consequences of my own actions.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#32
YouTube's moderation is ridiculous, and it demonstrates the problem Google has in general. They don't like paying actual people to moderate their sites, and rely on automated systems and bots to do everything for them. So, if there's ever an issue (or you have a bunch of scammers mass reporting you because you debunk their 'work'), then YouTube/Google seems to think you're the problem instead of the scumbags.

We need things to change here. We need Google to moderate their services properly, and we need these scammers to get arrested/sued/whatever for misleading info, and putting people's lives at risk.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

Ahhh, yea did that as a kid too. Although, I tipped it on its side. The trick was to make toast then microwave the cheese :)

But seriously, my mom was furious. No YouTube required.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#35
Imperfect moderation is inevitable at the massive scale of social media companies. YouTube receives an enormous quantity of video every day and it’s clearly impossible to have humans review all of it. If we humans did review every single minute of video, the subjective element of moderation would still lead to headlines like this where someone could identify instances of inconsistencies.

Given that she re-uploaded the video and I’m watching it on YouTube right now, I assume the initial moderation strike was more of a mistake. Or more likely, maybe it was reported by a number of people who were upset by it for some reason and it entered an auto-moderation queue.

I have a hard time getting too worked up about news stories of singular moderation mistakes. Does anyone realistically expect YouTube to have perfectly consistent moderation? Even HN, a significantly smaller community, has very uneven and inconsistent moderation due to the user-influenced flagging features.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#36
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't you have empathy for poor creators like the executive branch of the US federal government though? The dislike button was making things rough for them.

I swear, the YouTube staff was just salty about the ratios on their cringe-fest Rewind videos.

It was probably turning corporations off the platform entirely since turning the likes off looked bad and leaving them on created risk.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#37
post #32

YouTube's moderation is ridiculous, and it demonstrates the problem Google has in general. They don't like paying actual people to moderate their sites, and rely on automated systems and bots to do everything for them. So, if there's ever an issue (or you have a bunch of scammers mass reporting you because you debunk their 'work'), then YouTube/Google seems to think you're the problem instead of the scumbags. We need…

Or instead use specialised communities that does do moderation like peer tube, odysee.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

Ahhh, yea did that as a kid too. Although, I tipped it on its side. The trick was to make toast then microwave the cheese :) But seriously, my mom was furious. No YouTube required.

Same ... but for me it was plastic sleeves in a laser printer ...
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