TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

Post by kube-system » Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 5:21 PM UTC

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The difference is that there is a non-zero amount of friction in the US. We also know that many companies in the US say “no” and have the legal ability to do it. For example, when the FBI asked Apple to unlock a phone for them, they said no, and they never did. In China, your company doesn’t say “no” because the CCP members forcibly installed on your company’s board always vote “yes”. And in fact, the CCP holds the i…

Companies don't deploy warrant canaries[0] just for fun. Lavabit[1] was also US based and shut down without the ability to defend itself thanks to a gag order. It might not be just as bad as China, but secret data extraction is definitely not exclusive to them. And, since you mentioned > And in fact, the CCP holds the iCloud keys for all Chinese iCloud users. Quoting from [1]: > The court records show that the FBI so…

Post by kube-system » Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 5:25 PM UTC

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The situation in the US is not without valid criticism , but it is not even close to comparable with the legal environment in China. The US has a judicial branch that frequently operates at odds against its own executive branch, by design.

>The US has a judicial branch that frequently operates at odds against its own executive branch, by design. Maybe if you are from US, if you are not from US you have no rights, US gov can spy on you, or even kill you without any legal consequences because it will be legal from US POV

Post by tablespoon » Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 5:27 PM UTC

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>> Who's doing the collecting often matters much more than what is actually collected >> The important context here is we seem to be transitioning away from the era of kumbaya free market globalism into an era of tenser geopolitical rivalries and more conflict. > Correct, therefore far more attention ought be put to domestic corporate and government spying on the public because they have got a far stronger leverage o…

And to make myself even more explicit, I am saying that desires of the US Public are indeed different from "US (Gov) Interests" as noted from the Snowden leaks, the Pentagon Papers, the Church Committee, Afghanistan Papers, Manning Leaks et al we can see that there's a (rather) serious divergence between the desires of both and should not be conflated

Post by irthomasthomas » Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 5:30 PM UTC

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Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram. And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but t…

> let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way For more context, from: https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/zuck-bucks-consp... > He offered nearly half a billion dollars in grants to any election official who wanted one, as long as those officials spent it on what a lot of people would consider mundane essentials: b…

Post by ok123456 » Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 5:34 PM UTC

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Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.

Except TikTok is operating on behalf of an authoritarian regime with no protection for human rights, freedom of speech or thought, rule of law, separation and balance of power, or any of those quaint things.