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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by geekbird »

krnlpnc wrote: post #216
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Like anything it's about balance. The same could be said about working every day, at all different times of the day. There is something to be said for turning off the part of the brain that worries about being productive all the time. Claiming a few 4 hour blocks over the course of a week as your own time to "zone out" and do whatever activity you like is not a bad thing. For some people cannabis helps them get in th…

This. I know a lot of people who need to just ... stop. They always have to be busy, doing something "productive" or "beneficial". They don't take time to just be, to stop and smell the roses.

My problem with sleeping was trying to turn off my geek brain long enough to get to sleep and stay 5that way. Weed helps with that.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by tacheiordache »

toss1 wrote: post #87
Mo3 wrote: post #15

I live in the Netherlands where there is a "coffeeshop" culture, with some of these coffeeshops having a connaisseur-like focus - as in, they sometimes even offer extremely exotic strains that you've never heard about and aren't even on Leafly etc yet, sourced from god knows where 10000 miles away, and then carefully and passionately grown and cured - and I can 100% guarantee you that people are not necessarily getti…

Yup. The concept in the article shows nothing but ignorance. As far as I know, weed has never produced an actual drug overdose. This is literally something my cat learned by himself as a kitten. He was a stray, raised without a momcat, and very food insecure when he arrived. When we started feeding him full meals, he'd promptly eat as much as he could and about 10 minutes later barf it all out. He learned to not do t…

> Yup. The concept in the article shows nothing but ignorance. As far as I know, weed has never produced an actual drug overdose.

While I agree with you and am a casual user myself, there are some problems that need to be discussed. Underage smoking can stunt brain growth and we'd end up in a dumber society than what we already have. Just talking about it may have some positive effects.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by drost »

Shindi wrote: post #164
drost wrote: post #85

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I'm struggling with this right now. Using during the day is still an uncommon occurrence, but it's happening more and more. The real issue I'm having with it is that I'm using pretty much every night. I come from the gym, take a shower, and grab the vape pen and sit on the couch. It just makes me so lazy. I stopped cooking and just eat pizza and ice cream nearly every night. Thankfully my weight hasn't taken a hit. B…

Just wanted to plug r/leaves . It's a great community that helps people figure out their reasons and quit. Sometimes that means quitting for one week, feeling good and going back. But it has helped me quit for good and so much happier in life.

Just subscribed. Thank you

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by drost »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #197
drost wrote: post #85

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I'm struggling with this right now. Using during the day is still an uncommon occurrence, but it's happening more and more. The real issue I'm having with it is that I'm using pretty much every night. I come from the gym, take a shower, and grab the vape pen and sit on the couch. It just makes me so lazy. I stopped cooking and just eat pizza and ice cream nearly every night. Thankfully my weight hasn't taken a hit. B…

I mean, you are going to the gym, and you feel lazy? That’s a healthier practice than most people I know. Consider it a reward? :)

By gym, I mean Jiu Jitsu. But that's really just physical entertainment that consumes 1-3 hours an evening. If I'm back home by 7, what do I do with the time between then and bedtime? I don't know if not smoke weed.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by vkou »

ellopoppit wrote: post #58

Is there any doubt that alcohol, or sugar for that matter, makes far more people (teens especially) sick than cannabis? In fact, cannabis is an excellent treatment for alcohol hangovers.

"Vodka cocktails are bad for you" doesn't logically refute "Weed can be bad for you."

Both can be (and almost certainly are) true at the same time.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by SwanRonson »

Maursault wrote: post #316

Weed is harmless, except for teens . Weed has always hurt teens. The hurt is subtle. It tends to steal their future and their ability to support themselves or contribute to society. But this really isn't about weed. It's about bad parents.

How are “good parents” expected to find this low-odor, marker-sized object without deeply invading their child’s privacy or ruining their bond and becoming “bad parents”?

Gone are the days of finding a smelly bong in the back of the closet, this could be in their pocket or purse at all times.

The side effects of weed could be found in every sober teen. Hungrier, more emotional, more distant from parents, etc. Are good parents supposed to treat their children like criminals until they no longer show signs of puberty?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by Overtonwindow »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

This has been a serious issue of mine. I have serious PTSD and anxiety, and nothing has ever worked like cannabis. Not even close. However it has a detrimental effect on my work output.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by drost »

adampk wrote: post #126
drost wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm struggling with this right now. Using during the day is still an uncommon occurrence, but it's happening more and more. The real issue I'm having with it is that I'm using pretty much every night. I come from the gym, take a shower, and grab the vape pen and sit on the couch. It just makes me so lazy. I stopped cooking and just eat pizza and ice cream nearly every night. Thankfully my weight hasn't taken a hit. B…

honestly sounds like you're having a great time lol

It's not a bad time. But I'm doing nothing. I spend each night channel surfing between YouTube, AppleTV, Hulu, and Netflix. It would be so boring if I were doing it sober.

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jb1991 wrote: post #280
jamal-kumar wrote: post #256

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The article link still does not work for me in a private window in FF. But what is "hax" ? Whatever that means, that's the only thing I'm not doing.

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by nobody9999 »

xbar wrote: post #311
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

This is an old 4% strength THC I-used-to-be-a-stoner argument that is completely irrelevant to the "real" dangers (multiple) to teenagers, which include: concentrated THC in teenagers causes psychosis; moderate THC in teenagers makes them permanently less intelligent. THC users like to downplay them.

> This is an old 4% strength THC I-used-to-be-a-stoner argument that is completely irrelevant to the "real" dangers (multiple) to teenagers, which include: concentrated THC in teenagers causes psychosis; moderate THC in teenagers makes them permanently less intelligent.

>THC users like to downplay them.

What would you have us do then? There are minimum legal ages for using legal cannabis as well as alcohol and tobacco.

That doesn't stop teens from trying it out, nor has it ever done so.

Archaeologists have documented the use of mind altering substances by humans going back at least 8-10,000 years, and it's very likely that such usage goes back much, much farther (e.g., our distant ancestors getting drunk from eating fermenting fruit millions of years ago).

The issue isn't whether or not people should use mind alterng substances, we have done so and we will continue to do so.

The advice I gave to those in the younger generation of my family is that "we've been using mind altering substances pretty much forever. And most people handle it just fine. But if using such substances interferes with your goals and/or functioning as a person in society, there's likely a problem."

Which is why I believe all "drugs" should be legal, with purity and dosages regulated.

From an economic standpoint, it makes a lot of sense. We could spend a fraction of what we spend on "interdiction," "enforcement," incarceration and lost economic output (the result of incarceration and bias against those who have been incarcerated) on treatment programs for the tiny proportion of us for whom using mind altering substances keep us from functioning normally in society.

That makes much more sense to me. Trying to stop folks from doing stuff we've been doing since before we were us (humans), is a fool's errand.

Let's help those who have issues and leave everyone else the hell alone.

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