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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by pas » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

drost wrote: post #85

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I'm struggling with this right now. Using during the day is still an uncommon occurrence, but it's happening more and more. The real issue I'm having with it is that I'm using pretty much every night. I come from the gym, take a shower, and grab the vape pen and sit on the couch. It just makes me so lazy. I stopped cooking and just eat pizza and ice cream nearly every night. Thankfully my weight hasn't taken a hit. B…

it seems the problem is not weed or pizza or lack of cooking, but an overall lack of higher level goals. in this regard there's no real difference between gym + cooking and pizza + vaping. of course if you do have those goals and you are making progress, then sticking to cooking seems order for order's sake.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by lacker » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #117

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Counter point: I am 37 years old. I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired. Maybe I would have been more successful without it, so perhaps you are right. But then,…

I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired.

Maybe the next four years are going to be the most successful four years of your career. Good luck!

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by barbazoo » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

murat124 wrote: post #132

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

The thing with cannabis (with THC) is that it makes doing nothing OK so you may realize after some time of daily use that you have accepted doing nothing as a legit activity, contrarily when not high you'd either do something to utilize that time or may feel bad that you have nothing to do (bored). Cannabis has not much of physical addiction properties which is great yet one day you may find 10 years have got behind…

I can't really relate to this. There is a spectrum of how high you get. Maybe we should distinguish between getting super stoned, just sitting on the couch watching TV and smoking half a joint, going for a walk in nature and listen to music or cook or bake.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by Shindi » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

drost wrote: post #85

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I'm struggling with this right now. Using during the day is still an uncommon occurrence, but it's happening more and more. The real issue I'm having with it is that I'm using pretty much every night. I come from the gym, take a shower, and grab the vape pen and sit on the couch. It just makes me so lazy. I stopped cooking and just eat pizza and ice cream nearly every night. Thankfully my weight hasn't taken a hit. B…

Just wanted to plug r/leaves . It's a great community that helps people figure out their reasons and quit.

Sometimes that means quitting for one week, feeling good and going back. But it has helped me quit for good and so much happier in life.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by nick__m » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:03 PM UTC

Mo3 wrote: post #15

I live in the Netherlands where there is a "coffeeshop" culture, with some of these coffeeshops having a connaisseur-like focus - as in, they sometimes even offer extremely exotic strains that you've never heard about and aren't even on Leafly etc yet, sourced from god knows where 10000 miles away, and then carefully and passionately grown and cured - and I can 100% guarantee you that people are not necessarily getti…

Your last paragraph is semiwrong. You can absolutely get sick with unadulterated cannabis but it's not dangerous just really unpleasant.

I speak from experience because I developed the cannabis hyperemesis syndrome. It happened when I switched to dry herb vaporization and the smoothness of the vapor made me unconsciously and insidiously increase the amount of cannabis I consumed per puff until I reach the ridiculous amount of .25g per puff. I know it was the syndrome and not some adulterated weed because applying capsaicin cream on my abdomen stopped the nausea.¹

When you are affected by that syndrome abstinence is the only permanent solution. So if someone like to indulge in cannabis, they should avoid to consume frequent concentrated doses.

1) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5758720/

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by coding123 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:04 PM UTC

aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #138

retrac wrote: post #115

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I can't speak for other people, but for me, it's not recreational. Not anymore. I need cannabis to simply feel normal. I feel high only when I'm sober, because sobriety is the atypical state. I can't sleep without it. I can't leave the house in the morning without it. After about 24 hours abstinence, I get debilitating headaches and start to vomit, presumably from the withdrawal. It's not fun. There's not much fun le…

> After about 24 hours abstinence, I get debilitating headaches and start to vomit, presumably from the withdrawal. Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome

it's just the body missing something it thinks it needs, I get the same thing with coffee

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by marcosdumay » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:04 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #69

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Why is this topic always brought up regarding weed, but nothing else? Should we make video games illegal because they can cause some people to live a lethargic and less productive life?

I don't see much support for criminalization of drugs around here.

But yeah, we should educate people so they notice if this happen due to view games, or Facebook too.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:05 PM UTC

Mo3 wrote: post #15

I live in the Netherlands where there is a "coffeeshop" culture, with some of these coffeeshops having a connaisseur-like focus - as in, they sometimes even offer extremely exotic strains that you've never heard about and aren't even on Leafly etc yet, sourced from god knows where 10000 miles away, and then carefully and passionately grown and cured - and I can 100% guarantee you that people are not necessarily getti…

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by mettamage » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:05 PM UTC

Mo3 wrote: post #147

mettamage wrote: post #135

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Holy hell, I'm sad to hear that :( I've seen it with Swedish people as well, when I was in Stockholm. Whenever I smoke I feel as safe as drinking alcohol: i.e. nothing to fear from law enforcement if you don't go overboard with it. I smoke once every 2 months or so, on average, 1 to 4 puffs, always in social settings. I'm 30+ years of age. My family has a history of drug addiction (all of them). What I've learned is…

All good man, whenever I get these feelings now I just continue taking puffs and all is good. My only police encounter was something to remember, too. I was sitting in the park at night (because I mostly work at night), smoking a doobie and settling in to go to bed soon, when suddenly a Politie car came shooting up the bicycle path straight towards me. You can probably imagine I almost shit my pants. They asked super…

> They asked super nicely if I need any help because they got worried about me sitting there alone at night and wanted to check on my well-being.

Awesome

> when Americans argue about prohibition and regulation they almost always do it with a completely unconscious bias and not seeing the true reasons.

Haha, I've seen it with some Dutch people who never tried drugs but who have seen some people go under because of it. I get where they're coming from. I've seen it too. I've seen it too many times. And yet, here I am. It can be done in a healthy way. It took a very intelligent someone to show me how to do it responsibly. I'd have rejected such a showcase from almost anyone else, which I have done countless of times.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by coding123 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:05 PM UTC

teakettle42 wrote: post #105

slg wrote: post #69

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Why is this topic always brought up regarding weed, but nothing else? Should we make video games illegal because they can cause some people to live a lethargic and less productive life?

Video games don’t make you lethargic, less productive, and significantly less intelligent for days after playing them.

In a round-about-way they do - video games are so fun you can end up playing them for days until you get bored.