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Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by dend »

88913527 wrote: post #118
dend wrote: post #76

My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

You still need to engage with the major social networks to build up traffic to your own domain name. Otherwise, posting on your blog is like talking to a brick wall. You can choose where you publish, but there's no escaping the leveraging of existing audiences.

My earlier comment is not contradictory to this statement. Indeed, you need to be on social media sites to reach a broader audience, but you can post links to your content that is external to those sites rather than giving it up wholesale within the network.

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by distrill »

NearAP wrote: post #90

While it's all well and good to launch new features, I think Twitter should improve their existing service and I'm referring to low hanging fruits. I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Twitter can still display Ads to me irrespective of whether I'm logged in or not. In fact cutting me off means I leave Twitter which means I don't…

> improve their existing service

> I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in

i mean, this really isn't a bug. this is working as intended, and i don't foresee them wanting to "fix" this anytime soon.

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by lupire »

rchaud wrote: post #98
caycep wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the "walled garden" comment, I'm wondering - nowadays, all sorts of discourse seems to depend on these types of proprietary services/platforms, that employ armies of engineers to keep them running, develop new features, etc. Attempts to make things decentralized all seem to be aggregating into central controls, i.e. "Web3/crypto" -> coinbase, kraken, etc Why aren't older decentralized "services" protocols being…

> Why aren't older decentralized "services" protocols being looked at, or developed further - i.e. UUnet/newsgroups, torrent, etc? Where will the money come from? The only reason there's any investment in software at all is so that a monetizable product can be built on top of it. And nothing monetizes better than vendor lock-in.

Government, universities, hobbyists.

That's how we did it the first time.

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by MAGZine »

dend wrote: post #76

My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

I love ghost but it's always been pretty expensive for just a blog.

It seems like they've maybe shifted prices down a bit, it used to be more than $10/mo, and measured based on page views. Now they're really pushing their content creator angle.

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by vincentmarle »

I've just tested this by clicking on one of the notes in the Twitter app: it opens up an ugly webview which I'm not logged into... and it's suggesting to download and use the app for a better experience (I was already on the app!).

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by lupire »

dend wrote: post #113
_0w8t wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one wants a blog with self-hosted comments, then there not so many options and those that exist are not particularly simple. For example, standalone Wordpress can do that, but setting it up and running with all relevant plugins requires skills that few authors have access to.

Comments is a _secondary_ component to the core of what I am talking about - long-form content. I can still post a link to my blog post on Twitter and have all the commentary from my audience without donating the content itself to Twitter.

What do you mean "donating the content"? Ad clicks? Subscription fee on your blog?

Is your blog making you money?

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by Hackbraten »

FateOfNations wrote: post #74
junot wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same thing happen to me. Page worked after refresh though.

That seems to be an issue in general for Twitter, particularly when logged out. It often doesn't load on the first go around and you have to refresh to see the content.

No dice for me in Europe. I can refresh as often as I want, it keeps saying “Page not found.”

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by vincvinc »

Any other similar platform (weibo, facebook, G+) just allows the post/tweet to be long and editable.

It’s a proven concept. It leads to many people sharing their thoughts in a more readable way than a thread of tweets, and has a lower barrier than having a blog.

What I see here feels overspec’d and convoluted, as if hundreds of people had to have a say on what could be a very simple and singular product.

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by aendruk »

suyash wrote: post #69

Idea is good however implementation is horrible specially on desktop web. The narrow width of the content makes it hard to read, not to mention all the distractions on left and right side of the page. They should make the notes full screen without distractions if they want people to read them.

I can see the logic behind the narrow presentation. If most people use this on pocket computers, the writing will likely be tailored to that format e.g. with generally shorter paragraphs so as not to tower. Keeping the presentation consistent might help with readability.

For an example of what Twitter might be trying to avoid, look no further than this website, which has driven me to inject `.comment { max-width: 70ch; }`, among other things.

Re: Twitter Notes

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Post by Kye »

Good thing I never did much with Revue--which this is replacing if I understood the account's bio right--after Twitter bought it. I'm sure all the portability will vanish in the name of "better integration" or some other weak CEO-speak.
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