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Re: Twitter Notes

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While it's all well and good to launch new features, I think Twitter should improve their existing service and I'm referring to low hanging fruits. I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Twitter can still display Ads to me irrespective of whether I'm logged in or not. In fact cutting me off means I leave Twitter which means I don't…

Twitter doesn't care about a pair of anonynmous eyeballs not visiting their site anymore. It's not Google. Twitter's ad targeting depends on knowing what a user looks at, and how their network of connections/follows lines up with other user segments.

>> Twitter's ad targeting depends on knowing what a user looks at

But they can track which tweets are being clicked, the IP of the person and a whole bunch of things even when you're not logged in.

>> and how their network of connections/follows

But that's the problem right there. If you force people to create an account to read tweets, they might do so but they won't follow anybody or follow very few people and tweet quite infrequently. I just don't think it's feasible to expect a significant number of people (like say # of users on Facebook) to be tweeting regularly. But it's possible that I'm wrong.

Re: Twitter Notes

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post #104
post #76

My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

If one wants a blog with self-hosted comments, then there not so many options and those that exist are not particularly simple. For example, standalone Wordpress can do that, but setting it up and running with all relevant plugins requires skills that few authors have access to.

Comments is a _secondary_ component to the core of what I am talking about - long-form content. I can still post a link to my blog post on Twitter and have all the commentary from my audience without donating the content itself to Twitter.

Re: Twitter Notes

#114
post #90

While it's all well and good to launch new features, I think Twitter should improve their existing service and I'm referring to low hanging fruits. I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Twitter can still display Ads to me irrespective of whether I'm logged in or not. In fact cutting me off means I leave Twitter which means I don't…

its not fast but I just use nitter.net instead

Re: Twitter Notes

#115

Interestingly enough, Notes are editable (as seen by the "edited" tag on https://twitter.com/i/notes/1539613004370788352 ). Might be an indicator of how editing will work if/when it trickles down to normal tweets, too.

I noticed this too and thought it was the best part of the announcement. I don't personally want to write notes on Twitter, but I'm eager to be able to fix my typos in tweets!

Re: Twitter Notes

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post #76

My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

I would just love to get rid of the obnoxious writing style that twitter thought-leaders use when they're posting a thread. They always start with a fairly obnoxious click-baitey sentence. Then usually a fairly narcissistic hook about how "i'll explain" then "a " and "/1". And then each tweet needs to be punchy enough in 240 characters to keep people reading which produces a particularly annoying writing style. Then…

“Let me explain”

No thanks.

Re: Twitter Notes

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post #76

My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

You still need to engage with the major social networks to build up traffic to your own domain name. Otherwise, posting on your blog is like talking to a brick wall. You can choose where you publish, but there's no escaping the leveraging of existing audiences.

Re: Twitter Notes

#119

Eh...finally? Like 10 years after its competitor weibo.com? Says a lot about the culture of Twitter.

Me never having heard of weibo says a lot about Twitter's success...

It's Chinese company, so naturally few people in the west heard about it. It does not mean that Twitter does a better job in product iteration compared to weibo, though.

Re: Twitter Notes

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I’m not so sure this works with how I use twitter. My typical twitter use is when I’m on a 10 minute ride on the subway, I don’t want longform writing in this context. If I see a link to something interesting I’ll open a tab in safari for later reading, but I’m not gonna move away from my timeline just to read your thoughts
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