It would. Yet there is no promising tech in this field. Hydrogen is supported only to draw support away from EVs. If hydrogen becomes inexpensive to produce, it will by by way of solar power used to generate it. It will never be easy to store. Hydrogen is the smallest element, and can move through solid objects over time. It is violently explosive. You think these EV fires you see all the time are bad? They're nothin…
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Re: Cheap, green hydrogen would be a breakthrough in clean energy
#12Why are we all wrapped up with hydrogen when we already have a perfectly adequate hydrocarbon infrastructure? Sure, digging up old buried hydrocarbons and burning them isn't good, but couldn't we start synthesizing light hydrocarbons using green technology, so at least those usages are carbon neutral?
For logistics reasons it will almost certainly have its place, but because by definition it takes a greater energy investment than just the hydrogen, it will economically come after hydrogen production has been scaled to solve the cases where it is not logistically constrained.
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#13> the world will have to get better at balancing energy supply and demand so we don’t go dark when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. Thanks Bill, that's really helpful, was there really no other way you could have phrased that? > Another option is to produce hydrogen using the current methods that burn fossil fuels and then capture the CO2 produced in the process before it’s released in the atmosphere.…
Re: Cheap, green hydrogen would be a breakthrough in clean energy
#14Why are we all wrapped up with hydrogen when we already have a perfectly adequate hydrocarbon infrastructure? Sure, digging up old buried hydrocarbons and burning them isn't good, but couldn't we start synthesizing light hydrocarbons using green technology, so at least those usages are carbon neutral?
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#15> the world will have to get better at balancing energy supply and demand so we don’t go dark when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. Thanks Bill, that's really helpful, was there really no other way you could have phrased that? > Another option is to produce hydrogen using the current methods that burn fossil fuels and then capture the CO2 produced in the process before it’s released in the atmosphere.…
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#16> the world will have to get better at balancing energy supply and demand so we don’t go dark when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. Thanks Bill, that's really helpful, was there really no other way you could have phrased that? > Another option is to produce hydrogen using the current methods that burn fossil fuels and then capture the CO2 produced in the process before it’s released in the atmosphere.…
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The amount of tolerable losses depends on how cheap the power is, if the power supply is intermittent, some time they'd be greatly in excess of standard loads, in which case you could run hydrogen cracking at 10% efficiency and it might still be useful just as grid ballast.
Re: Cheap, green hydrogen would be a breakthrough in clean energy
#17Yeah, so would cheap nuclear power or cheap batteries. I find cheap batteries way more likely then either of those.
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#20> the world will have to get better at balancing energy supply and demand so we don’t go dark when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. Thanks Bill, that's really helpful, was there really no other way you could have phrased that? > Another option is to produce hydrogen using the current methods that burn fossil fuels and then capture the CO2 produced in the process before it’s released in the atmosphere.…
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This is true of every form of energy transfer. There is never, ever 100% energy maintained, and maybe you'll be stunned at how inefficient existing energy sources are.