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Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by ptero »

mcv wrote: post #140
ptero wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People in their 20s having their own digs is, I think, a decidedly American phenomenon. In most of the poorer parts of the world (including, for example, Central and Eastern Europe), 30+ years ago younger crowd managed to have sex just fine, using dorm rooms, snatching time while parents were away, etc. My 2c.

Aren't we talking about people in their 20s? You seem to be describing teenagers. For people in their 20s, it's always been quite normal to have a job, a home, and, at some point during their 20s, to get married.

A job -- sure. But a common situation in cities would be for a 20-something to live with their parents until (and sometimes after) they got married due to the very limited housing. When I came to the US in my mid-20s I was absolutely stunned that it was possible for someone working an unskilled job (which is what I did for my first year) to rent a small apartment of one's own (in a sketchy part of the town, sure) and invite whoever I please whenever I want.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by computerfriend »

cryptica wrote: post #151
orangepurple wrote: post #75

95% of Tinder swipes by women are passes compared to 47% for men. Women tend to date up. Online dating apps are rigged for men. These apps are search engines optimized to match women with the top 5% of men. These apps are designed for women. Being average or even above average will almost never result in a date. Tinder was designed like a slot machine which will ruin your self-esteem from constant rejection but your…

Reading stuff like this makes me really glad that I married my first girlfriend. We've been married for over 10 years now. She was really out of my league. I did compromise on many things including age gap (she is older), past baggage and the fact that I have to let her win every argument and do everything she says but I'm glad because she was the opportunity of my life and I took it and I've never been so lucky sinc…

> I've never been so lucky since about anything since.

Your toxic-sounding relationship is holding you back.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by PedroBatista »

pknopf wrote: post #32
jbrun wrote: post #21

Population implosion is going to be the biggest problem of our lives. It is one of those issues that creeps up progressively (like Global Warming), but will have cataclysmic impacts. Sex is a precursor to relationships and kids, if people don't have sex... Imagine 80% of the population is elderly and retired (or want to be retired) - that is where the world is heading by the end of the century. From 2018: https://www…

7% of all humans that ever existed, are alive today. We can afford a contraction.

That argument is in line with the "Thank God for the pandemic! all people are locked at home and pollution is decreasing! also less people in the planet!"

I don't know who are "we" and if they can afford it. I suspect most don't know either and think they "afford" part is not their part or imagine it's having one less latte/month in exchange for less traffic.

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Post by webinvest »

orangepurple wrote: post #154
kbrannigan wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get of these apps. I think many men who use apps, do so because they are too afraid to approach a woman they find attractive if the situation is appropriate. They don't bite, if you make a move with enough respect and confidence. In my opinion while convenient, they should be last resort.

They are only worth using as a man if you are ranked in the top 10% of superficial appearances. Those guys are going on dates with different women daily with these apps. If you don't believe me look up any YouTube video going undercover on Tinder masquerading as an attractive man. The thing is Tinder has 75 million active users. If we assume 75% of these active users are men, and only the top 10% of men will reliably…

Even if the dating pool consists of only the top 10%, women are still only going to swipe right on the top 5% of that.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by lesstyzing »

There are so many incel type comments in this thread and anytime this subject comes up.

Online dating definitely isn’t fun but it’s not the shit show people here seem to make out.

All of my friends met their long terms partners on dating apps. None of these men are particularly attractive. All are average looking at best.

Personally I went from never dating to going on dates with a handful of people over a 6 month period (all found on dating apps) to finding my long term partner. Everyone I met in person was nice and looking for a long term relationship. They were all attractive (to me at least) but objectively of average appearance or slightly below. I’m overweight and average looking at best.

If you are really struggling on these apps I’d suggest losing the negative attitude and lowering your standards in terms of partners appearance. There are lots of wonderful people out there but you aren’t going to meet them when you swipe right on everyone, complain that women have it too easy, and expect a supermodel to swipe right on you.

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Post by ls15 »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #119
ls15 wrote: post #68

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Then why is birth rate inversely correlated with income?

Have you heard about contraception and abortion? Amount of sex had does not correlate with birth rates, with the exception of literally 0 sex. You can have sex daily all your life and not have any kids, and have sex just one time and get pregnant.

> Amount of sex had does not correlate with birth rates

I'd prefer a source for this claim over the patronizing tone

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Post by ajmurmann »

lm28469 wrote: post #64
pknopf wrote: post #32

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7% of all humans that ever existed, are alive today. We can afford a contraction.

Depends on the scale you look at it. It's going to be a shit show for a few generations. Especially in all the countries relying on the working force to pay for the elderly through tax &co Humanity can afford it, you might not

> Especially in all the countries relying on the working force to pay for the elderly through tax &co

I don't think it makes much of a difference in practice for this scenario if retirement is funded by savings/investments of the elderly or through taxes and other transfers from the working population. As much of the population is retired the value of the investments will go down as now now people are selling than buying new investment. It would become a indirect transfer.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by orangepurple »

webinvest wrote: post #204
orangepurple wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are only worth using as a man if you are ranked in the top 10% of superficial appearances. Those guys are going on dates with different women daily with these apps. If you don't believe me look up any YouTube video going undercover on Tinder masquerading as an attractive man. The thing is Tinder has 75 million active users. If we assume 75% of these active users are men, and only the top 10% of men will reliably…

Even if the dating pool consists of only the top 10%, women are still only going to swipe right on the top 5% of that.

I'm not sure that this is a correct statistical interpretation

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by marttt »

I think more of thoughtful physical intimacy (not porn) in relationships would be a massive treatment for the depression epidemic modern world seems to suffer from.

A contemporary poet and philosopher from my country considered eroticism the key to what he calls "ecological asceticism": physical intimacy and tenderness requires "no more energy than digging in your planting bed", but it forces us to attune to another person, another human being.

This is probably the main reason I fear that people who give up having children or (rather) long-term relationships to "save the planet" are digging a hole for themselves. I mean... isn't this a bit too tough, brutal even? Only a handful of us probably really succeed in not being a social animal. Or, not requiring any meaningful physical closeness.

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