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> Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this Just the only vpn with any integrity left remaining, no biggie.
Absolutely no way to know they are good and other is bad. The entire VPN industry is “trust us bro”. Which works until it doesn’t.
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#153If you're familiar with the sizeable benefits of the subscription model for a business you'll recognize this is a big deal.
Are these benefits not eroding? Pressure on subscription models comes from both the public getting herd immunity against the underlying dark pattern and competitors chasing a diminishing supply of people to trick as world + dog has adopted the tactic. In this particular case, with a privacy tailwind, it will be unsurprising if it ends up increasing their sales.
But to me their arguments sound too much like blackmail "With this model there is incentive for us to make longer-lasting products which is good for the environment". Well, sure but if you actually cared about the environment instead of money you'd be doing that right now. Why do we have to pay them more for less in order for them to do this?
To me this really sounds like a "pay us what we want or we'll mess up this environment of yours even more" extortion scheme.
The older generation is more against it but they tend to not trust tech very much anyway. They're not the ones buying a new phone every year, they use it for many years and even get it fixed when it breaks.
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#155Anyone have thoughts about the privacy and security aspects of TunnelBear? I've been using them for a few years, wondering if I should switch to Mullvad.
- ProtonVPN - Mullvad - IVPN
More details here on why: https://www.privacyguides.org/vpn
I personally picked Mullvad even though i use Proton Mail because they have a fully featured Linux app, unlike Proton's which is very very basic and they support IPv6.
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#156Why are VPNs what people flock to when they think they want privacy? Moreover they kinda break the internet so it's not a scalable solution. It's cool to see a good one selling a privacy message and doing it at level 11, but it seems kinda disingenuous to me to tell users that they're more private because they use a VPN. Private from your current ISP, sure, but not from Mullvad (they're your new ISP, you're just movi…
I'm curious, how does VPNs break the internet? The only angle I can immediately see is the shortage of IPV4s.
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Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.
Mullvad accepts cash as well. In what way are they behind?
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2019/12/3/mullvad-partnerships-p...
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#158Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions
#159Why are VPNs what people flock to when they think they want privacy? Moreover they kinda break the internet so it's not a scalable solution. It's cool to see a good one selling a privacy message and doing it at level 11, but it seems kinda disingenuous to me to tell users that they're more private because they use a VPN. Private from your current ISP, sure, but not from Mullvad (they're your new ISP, you're just movi…
> [...] it seems kinda disingenuous to me to tell users that they're more private because they use a VPN. Private from your ISP, sure [...] Bit of a contradiction there. It adds friction to at least some attacks against your privacy. That's better privacy. Nothing will ever be perfect, and VPNs can easily be oversold in terms of their benefits (especially since https became the norm). But they have benefits in some c…
So why even allow "traditional" KYC-ridden payments at all?
> Bit of a contradiction there. It adds friction to at least some attacks against your privacy. That's better privacy.
The nuance is that you're just moving the problem. You're not private from Mullvad. You're just trading one ISP for a different one. I could have phrased it better in my initial comment so as not to suggest a contradiction. Think of it this way, if Mullvad was your ISP, would you still tell someone to get a VPN? You have to trust someone not to snoop on your DNS queries and connections. All adding a VPN does is give you more freedom to choose who to trust, which is not bad in its own right. It's just not technically privacy manifest.
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#160Have Mullvad's privacy guarantees been tested by subpoena?