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We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by kbouck »

huslage wrote: post #137

I, personally, care a large amount about convenience. I don't want to think about bills at all. I've been a Mullvad subscriber for years on a PayPal recurring payment. It works so well that I don't even think about it. I just use it. Having to think about paying a bill every month is really a pain to me. I get the privacy ideals, but the tradeoffs are not ridiculous. I should be able to make a decision about how priv…

> "Having to think about paying a bill every month"

Others can correct me, but I believe each payment just adds a month of time to your balance. So a number of months can be added at once.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by oaiey »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #91
dymk wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? Now you’re just using their ISP.

Some of us have really crappy ISPs (that also happen to be monopolists) that do things like HTTPS MITM (when they try to force you to install their root CA certificate and HTTPS simply doesn't work unless you do it), block DNS requests unless you use their DNS servers, or store all your traffic (this is being done in Russia, but it's close enough). I very much prefer to cover the precise details of my communications…

I hope you go for a spying incompetent country in Europe :). Especially one which is not partnered with the US .. like the UK and others.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by knorker »

sdfhdhjdw3 wrote: post #118
rglover wrote: post #27

Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

> Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this Just the only vpn with any integrity left remaining, no biggie.

What about ovpn.com?

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

sdfhdhjdw3 wrote: post #118
rglover wrote: post #27

Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

> Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this Just the only vpn with any integrity left remaining, no biggie.

Absolutely no way to know they are good and other is bad. The entire VPN industry is “trust us bro”. Which works until it doesn’t.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by matrix12 »

krallja wrote: post #77
disiplus wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's me and my audible subscription. i should cancel it, but before that i have to use the credits.

Holy cow, that’s evil. https://help.audible.com/s/article/do-i-keep-my-credits-if-i... Do I keep my credits if I cancel my Audible Premium Plus membership? No. If you end your Audible Premium Plus membership, your credits will be lost with your other membership benefits.

Hint: OpenAudible backup before you terminate.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by hihihihi1234 »

sdfhdhjdw3 wrote: post #118
rglover wrote: post #27

Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

> Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this Just the only vpn with any integrity left remaining, no biggie.

Why do the other popular VPNs not have any integrity left?

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by flodcw »

huslage wrote: post #137

I, personally, care a large amount about convenience. I don't want to think about bills at all. I've been a Mullvad subscriber for years on a PayPal recurring payment. It works so well that I don't even think about it. I just use it. Having to think about paying a bill every month is really a pain to me. I get the privacy ideals, but the tradeoffs are not ridiculous. I should be able to make a decision about how priv…

So just pay once for an entire year, if you use them often, or the flat monthly rate, whenever you need. This doesn't sounds too much of a hassle, especially considering the price.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by jaywalk »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #79
shafyy wrote: post #17

This is a great idea! In practice, how would you go about this e.g. if you're using Stripe? After a few weeks, delete the customer information in Stripe?

Mullvad deletes all transactions as soon as they are allowed by law/contract with pay agent. That's 45 days for some things and 60 for others I believe. They have more details on their site. This assumes you trust them to shred that info though. They also supposedly don't keep ip logs, but I assume their ISP does, so I guess that's of limited value.

Why would it matter if their ISP keeps IP logs? Those logs would not be able to link an IP address to anything of value.
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