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Clarus returns home in macOS Ventura
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Re: Clarus returns home in macOS Ventura
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's easy to rose-tint the past. I also remember the hockey puck mouse, the UI skeuomorphic choice to combine "brushed metal" window backgrounds with "plastic" buttons and "black and white LCD" info panels in iTunes and Quick Time Player, and the placement of the apple logo in the middle of the menu bar.
>the placement of the apple logo in the middle of the menu bar. wait, what? when did this happen? I do not have any memory of the Apple logo being anywhere other than the upper left hand corner of the menu bar. I do however remember the G3 PowerBooks with lit logo on the lid that was UPSIDE DOWN when open and in use
I think it was only in the 10.0 beta: https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/1h39-png.780020/
But I've been wrong before! At least twice.
Re: Clarus returns home in macOS Ventura
#123Idk. Lose 32 bit support forever, get a dog cow? No wonder the Mac platform is such a dumpster fire.
What was lost? Aside from gaming, everything is now 64 bit so it sounds like a successful transition. And there is a lot more wrong with gaming on mac than 32 bit support.
Eh, I'm not saying it was a net terrible thing, but it wasn't just gaming; there's value in being able to run old software. Or maybe it's better to just go full virtualization at that point.
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#124I have a print of Moof the Dogcow on my wall and it is lovely. Got it at Susan Kare’s shop: https://kareprints.com/products/copy-of-moof-the-dogcow-on-g...
MacForce in Portland used to sell a MOOF! T-shirt, which sadly I have lost or it fell apart over the years.
I had a couple that I wore out. got them in I think it was 1998 at the "Company Store" that Apple had at the Laguna Blvd (Elk Grove, CA) location. The whole store was on sale. As you can probably imagine....I had absolutely no idea what was even happening and why things were all on sale, and most definitely didn't archive things that I should have. :)
I still have a set of the 6 color Apple rainbow logo fridge magnets from that day.
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#125This is so great. The 90s/pre OS-X Apple (the "BuT tHeREs No SOFtWaRe!" and "ApPLe is GoING tO DiiEE" Apple) had a sense of playfulness in their UIs that was largely lost when they became the Apple we know today. The Mac OS classic architecture definitely had some problems with its non-protected memory and cooperative multitasking, but what it _allowed_ were extensions that could really get in there and muck around w…
> This is so great. The 90s/pre OS-X Apple (the "BuT tHeREs No SOFtWaRe!" and "ApPLe is GoING tO DiiEE" Apple) had a sense of playfulness in their UIs that was largely lost when they became the Apple we know today. What's so strange about this is that, as that playfulness has been lost, the software has, in many ways, moved in a direction that feels more childishly cartoonish. It seems the aim is now to make all comp…
> childsafe corners
had me chuckle
Re: Clarus returns home in macOS Ventura
#126I'm reminded of when Jobs got rid of the Icon Garden to discourage nostalgia. http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/c_applegarden.php
Ah yes. The burn your bridges technique.
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#127Really wish I could dig up the old HyperCard stack that first released Tech Note #31. I was so excited when I found it in the Resource Fork of one of stacks on the Apple Developer CD...
Thanks to Wikipedia contributors and to Archive.org!
https://web.archive.org/web/20040202021201/http://developer....
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
IIRC Apple doesn't do user testing because they know better. I have 20/20 vision and I had to turn on contrast and button shapes, the new design is so bland and unreadable. Macs have large screens and that's why... they changed all dialogs to be tall narrow boxes with center-aligned text? Properly labeled color-differentiated icons are now indistinguishable grays crowding the title bar removing all affordances (from…
>IIRC Apple doesn't do user testing because they know better. Citation needed... >The new designs break Apple's own HIGs and other recommendations like WCAG. You may have missed it, but they redid that HIG and released it during the latest WWDC. This train has left the station and it ain't backin' up. >Keyboard access is being removed or broken across all first-party apps. How about you... list some of these apps? I'…
> You may have missed it, but they redid that HIG and released it during the latest WWDC.
They didn't redo it, they redesigned it. All the recommendations they are breaking are still there.
> How about you... list some of these apps? I've been using macOS since Snow Leopard and all my muscle memory on the keyboard still works.
Except Messages all of their new first party apps have horrible to no keyboard access: Home, Music, App Store...
> The newer designs feel smoother and less constrained
How can it be less constrained when they literally crammed toolbar items into less space and redesigned dialog to be narrow? :)
Edit: there's of course more, as evidenced by the redesign of System Preferences: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31746133 And IIRC they are not properly keyboard accessible either.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
>the placement of the apple logo in the middle of the menu bar. wait, what? when did this happen? I do not have any memory of the Apple logo being anywhere other than the upper left hand corner of the menu bar. I do however remember the G3 PowerBooks with lit logo on the lid that was UPSIDE DOWN when open and in use
I think it was only in the 10.0 beta: https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/1h39-png.780020/ But I've been wrong before! At least twice.
Holy Shite!!
That's so weird, it took me a bit longer than I'd like to admit to see it.
A 10.0 beta looks like they ultimately made the better decision as I've never seen that image, nor, obviously, used that interface. Even prior versions to 10.0 didn't do that kind of stupidity. I honestly feel like beta testers aren't paid their value for dealing with that kind of asinine BS.
Luckily, they seemed to have learned quickly and never released to public with that monstrosity.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://jcs.org/system6c
Incredible! I have a couple of old Macs lying around and it's a dream of mine to write a native app for them that does something modern, like a way to control spotify of something. Thanks for linking
I’ve been learning as well, found this book to be pretty helpful https://archive.org/details/macintoshprogram00mark