Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

Post by bobajeff » Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 8:53 PM UTC

cookiengineer wrote: post #193

avian wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Note that Mozilla has nothing to do with Thunderbird anymore. Mozilla the non-profit owns the for-profit corp who owns Thunderbird. In their own words from the footer of https://www.thunderbird.net : > Thunderbird is now part of MZLA Technologies Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Mozilla Foundation.

... which is in conflict with the Thunderbird FAQ [1]: > Who makes Thunderbird? > Thunderbird is developed, tested, translated and supported largely by group of dedicated volunteers, plus paid staff. Thunderbird is an independent, community driven project. Therefore its paid staff, budget and fundraising are entirely managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird Community. Thund…

Post by javajosh » Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 9:23 PM UTC

the__alchemist wrote: post #72

javajosh wrote: post #25

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

How about a minimalist office suite and email suite written in modern C++ or Rust? Performance and responsiveness are important!

Post by gripfx » Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 9:44 PM UTC

iggldiggl wrote: post #133

xg15 wrote: post #61

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I don't think the selling part is the problem (per se), I mean the app becoming something completely different after the acquisition, which users never consciously installed.

I've just learned (one benefit of not automatically updating everything) that the app I've used for syncing music from iTunes to my Android phone [1] plus the associated music player app have been sold to some unscrupulous developers who have apparently proceeded to immediately re-add ads into the paid-for (!) versions, re-adding the the file sync limits that originally only applied to the free trial version and thin…

Post by aidenn0 » Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 10:00 PM UTC

Macha wrote: post #176

aidenn0 wrote: post #94

I hope that someday I will understand why people like Thunderbird. It is unequivocally the worst e-mail client I have ever used, excepting some early, extremely buggy versions of alpine. I tried it again recently as it is only one of only 3 e-mail clients I found that could do exchange oauth2[1]. It's possible that its interface isn't as objectively terrible as it seems, but it is gratuitously different; if you are g…

Have you used the gmail web interface? How do you do bulk actions on emails? Clicking a checkbox for every single one? Having to write an run a query for each set of emails you want to operate on in bulk? Here's how I do it in thunderbird. Sort by sender (or other thing). Click first email. Shift click last email. Do whatever I want (usually archive or move to a folder). My employer turned off IMAP access a few years…

Post by ephbit » Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 10:06 PM UTC

ephbit wrote: post #208

K-9 has served me pretty well over the last 8ish years. It has remained beautifully lightweight (quite an exception for apps nowadays) and the biggest (yet perfectly tolerable) annoyance has been long lines not wrapping automatically. I'm 9/10 sceptic about this cooperation and I'll be positively surprised if the future versions do not introduce lots of unnecessary bloat.