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Moving the blame from the EU data privacy rules to literally everyone else is frankly just ridiculous.
Your honour I hold it was not my client who did wrong, but the person who made the law banning murder in the first place.
Really could be either way.
(Originally sarcastic, but now I'm actually curious.)
Way too rushed... I don't think there is a clear roadmap for how the required infrastructure and supply chain will work. Definitely no clear understanding on the environmental impact of EVs. Did some pushy Tesla sales reps took senior EU politicians for some cool test rides? Sounds very much like it.
If you have a combustion engine and want to change to electric, who will buy it from you? Or how do you get rid of your old car? There will be basically no demand in Europe. Just wondering what will happen to all these existing cars, it’s nice to know new cars will be electric but what are people supposed to do with their current ones? Lot of them won’t be usable in cities due to low-emission zoning policies. Edit: i…
Why wouldn't the used market eat them up? The existing infrastructure of gas station is realistically not going away until enough people have ditched their old vehicles, and cars are thankfully an industry where consumers still expect their cars to last 10+ years. Don't know what everyone else's experience is, but coming from a middle class family, my first car was a 1993 Ford Fiesta (which was ~20 year old at the ti…
Much longer than that. I'm in my mid 20s in the UK, and I only know one person who drives a car that's less than a decade old, and she leases it. Everyone else has cars 1995-2011. Mine is a 2010 fiesta which I bought last year.
The used car market is huge here.
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I am willing to bet a beer that it's only for new cars. The article links to a description : >In a plenary vote on Wednesday, MEPs adopted their position on proposed rules to revise the CO2 emissions performance standards for *new* cars and vans with 339 votes in favour, 249 against and 24 abstentions. Many of the eu rules for cars are not retroactive. E.g I can use a old car without lighting for the number plate, ev…
Yes, this only applies to new cars, not used cars. You will be able to sell and buy used cars after 2035 if this proposal comes into effect. Note that while the parliament of the EU has approved the proposal, it still needs approval from the council of ministers.
All in all, in the EU you are quite pushed to get rid of your ICE car. I see this as a very good thing.
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It's the oil infrastructure that will affect them, because it's global. If that goes away...
It won't go away, but there's good chances fuel gets a lot more expensive as production scales back.
Also oil has high fixed costs. Stations, tanker trucks, refineries. Fewer customers carrying them means they rise as a percentage of purchase price.
Way too rushed... I don't think there is a clear roadmap for how the required infrastructure and supply chain will work. Definitely no clear understanding on the environmental impact of EVs. Did some pushy Tesla sales reps took senior EU politicians for some cool test rides? Sounds very much like it.
And we are talking, cars, not small buses, etc. You know that it will not have fundamental effects on the current trends if you look at the stocks of Shell, TotalEnergies, BP. They were basically not affected by the vote.
Way too rushed... I don't think there is a clear roadmap for how the required infrastructure and supply chain will work. Definitely no clear understanding on the environmental impact of EVs. Did some pushy Tesla sales reps took senior EU politicians for some cool test rides? Sounds very much like it.
We are not in a planned economy, we don't need a 10-year plan for building national supply chains. We have to make sure our electricity infrastructure can cope, everything else can be left up to the market. After all the investment to build a fast charger is easy if you have a guarantee that the number of customers will increase dramatically.
Let's see how "the market" likes being unable to drive to their beach holidays without infrastructure.
>> After all the investment to build a fast charger is easy if you have a guarantee that the number of customers will increase dramatically.
Maybe, but there is no such guarantee. You can't solve everything by throwing money at it. Fast chargers/decent batteries remain elusive. So then building infrastructure is the only solution within the next 10-15 years. No way the EU can coordinate that fast.
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Yes, this only applies to new cars, not used cars. You will be able to sell and buy used cars after 2035 if this proposal comes into effect. Note that while the parliament of the EU has approved the proposal, it still needs approval from the council of ministers.
Yes, only new cars. I think it this could also mean the reverse for used cars: They get more expensive because everybody wants them and no new are produced.
We may even end up in a long term repair market like Cuba maintaining those 50s cars since they can't really get more.
BEVs will be for civilian city dwellers, but for those who have jobs that were once called essential workers, the ones where people suffer and maybe die if the job doesn't happen, ICE cars will still have a place just for their dependability under duress factor.