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So it sounds like they think Google's chatbot is sentient? ...okay.
Not just sentient but that the AI has a soul and deserves the full rights of personhood. Dude is mentally ill.
Religious Discrimination at Google
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I'm open to believing anything, with appropriate evidence. The author makes specific claims about being judged by their manager for their religious beliefs. I'm not sure that's going to be enough to win a discrimination suit, but I wish them the best of luck. Religious discrimination at a workplace is (and should be) against the law. I hope they find the appropriate lawyer who can navigate this for them! (For what it…
That's... not how atheism works.
regardless of what each of us believes, there are beliefs that we would reject. how we treat people that share those beliefs is what matters.
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A company is where people spend most of their time, so of course the companies should cater to how people want to live their lives. Period...
No, in any sane work arrangement you spend the majority of your time somewhere other than work.
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You are at a meeting with colleagues, one colleague suddenly starts to insist that Santa Claus is real. Do you take them seriously? Sure it’s freedom of speech but there will be some kind of drop in respect. I mean I get that you believe that one book trumps all of human science because you were raised that way but when you grow up your critical thinking skills should kick in. If they don’t, it’s very difficult to ke…
Your equation of Santa Claus with God reveals your prejudice and stereotyping of religious people. As another commenter has said, many great scientific discoveries over history have been made by Christians. It would be wrong of me to deny that there is an anti-intellectual strain in Christianity but it is not the dominant trend that American media would like to espouse. Whether you think Christianity is sensible or n…
To make it clear: sometimes I tend to suspect (not believe) that there are some parts of math that we can’t reach, yet or at all, and it has effects which break or create higher-level symmetries and create everything as an imminent result. Think of a monster group as a cute little example of it. That still doesn’t make me think that I’ll be salvaged into paradise if I don’t mastrubate.
Also, I’m not a historian, but wasn’t Christianity the only way to access education back then? That would explain something.
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#155There are two things to tease out here. 1) the Indian caste system is not _just_ religious discrimination, its a class system that is devilishly tricky to escape. Its difficult to comprehend in the USA because the class system there is basically skin colour>money>very distant last religion. OP touches on this, but doesn't really quite grasp the difference. The implication is that he is but a poor dalit, because of hi…
Ranking skin color above money in the USA is…interesting.
As someone who is from the outside, Its especially obvious at points where the state or large institutions interact. (ie property, banking, police, airports etc etc)
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#156Quoting the most concrete example he gives: > If you start talking about your religious beliefs at a social event people treat you like you just farted in their face. They frequently will scrunch up their faces and might ask a question like “Do you REALLY believe all that stuff?” When you tell them that you do they might even go so far as to say “Sorry that’s just not the kind of thing I associate with someone as sma…
You are at a meeting with colleagues, one colleague suddenly starts to insist that Santa Claus is real. Do you take them seriously? Sure it’s freedom of speech but there will be some kind of drop in respect. I mean I get that you believe that one book trumps all of human science because you were raised that way but when you grow up your critical thinking skills should kick in. If they don’t, it’s very difficult to ke…
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#157Other commenters already pointed out: There have been many Christian scientists, philosophers, and artists smarter and more impactful than any Google engineer. Newton, Heisenberg, Cantor, Gödel just to name a few. Even Donald Knuth! And, of course, every nerd's favorite J. R. R. Tolkien. He was a maniac by their standards.
And it's not too surprising. There are good, rational arguments for deism. Unless you introduce a atheistic dogma, honest thinking has to hold the hypothesis of a creator god at least as somewhat likely. Today you can also call it simulation hypothesis, which is deism for geeks. It's not strange that an intelligent person becomes a Christian from deism plus the historical evidence.
I don't know how close-minded Google engineers in the US have become. I think an explanation along the lines as I tried to sketch above should at least make them more understanding.
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You are at a meeting with colleagues, one colleague suddenly starts to insist that Santa Claus is real. Do you take them seriously? Sure it’s freedom of speech but there will be some kind of drop in respect. I mean I get that you believe that one book trumps all of human science because you were raised that way but when you grow up your critical thinking skills should kick in. If they don’t, it’s very difficult to ke…
That's such a bad take, and I'm not even religious. This is the utmost lack of respect for another person that we should strive to stray very very far away from. Also, if you would know anything at all about religion (from context, I assume you mean Christianity), they don't believe that one book trumps all of human science at all -- taking the text literally is a relatively modern take done by very few branches of i…
I can think of many things on the spot that have the same level of evidence as you have for your $GOD but such a conversation just doesn’t make sense to me. I prefer to spend my time otherwise.
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> As another commenter has said, many great scientific discoveries over history have been made by Christians. Given that Christianity was the social norm in Europe and many European colonies for centuries, this statement is nearly equivalent to saying that many great scientific discoveries were made by Europeans. It's true, but only slightly interesting.
That’s a valid point, I think what should be considered though is the interest that the Catholic Church had in encouraging scientific study
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Big Bang is the best available explanation of observed facts. This doesn't mean it's the right one, but other explanations are inferior. Especially those provided by religions.
> Big Bang is the best available explanation of observed facts. Best available is not proof. The sun rotating around the Earth was also the best explanation for a long time in Human history. Traditional physics theory was the best until we started to observe things at the atomic level. Certitudes in Science don't age well, and should teach humility more than absurd dogma.