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Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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> individuals should be able to have and own their own domain names We should probably remember that no-one "owns" a domain, at least not in the traditional sense of ownership.

Something something blockchain! I believe for "real" ownership of domain names, a blockchain would actually make sense.

No. It doesn't.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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I’m involved with a URL shortener service. Service had to ban this domain as sub-domains from this domain seem to be loved by spammers/scammers to host their scams…

Do you ban all the other free sub-domain services too? There's no reliable or honest statistic proving that eu.org is widely used for bad purposes.

And what about URL-shortener services, such as the one you work with? Should they be banned all together? They seem to be popular with spam and scammers...

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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post #78

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Something something blockchain! I believe for "real" ownership of domain names, a blockchain would actually make sense.

No. It doesn't.

Why? Consider the scenario of a domain name owner dying and his relatives not caring/not knowing he/she owned a domain. With the current system the domain will be eventually available again. What alternative to you suggest?

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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How would the blockchain saying that you "own" a domain make you own it more than currently? It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain. This is the reason why wanting to apply blockchain to everything such as land ownership is laughable and shows how little blockchain fanatics understand about the very technology they praise.

When you accidentally lose it (by losing your private keys), it will be impossible for anyone else to get it back for you. In a sense, this will prove to you that you did really own it and no-one else did.

But IMHO this is an unwanted effect that we should avoid

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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And? Since they're on the public suffix list, they might as well be issuing domains. Subdomains work differently in a browser compared to a domain and since the eu.org stuff is handled as domain by browsers I see no issue describing it as such.

As far as I can tell I can visit eu.org (which redirects) but not .com . How are browsers handling it differently?

Unlike "com", Anguilla's TLD, "ai", has an A record pointing to a usable HTTP server:

http://ai/

A few years ago I tried all two-letter ([a-z]) TLDs and found some others that were able to handle HTTP requests, but they were either just redirecting to another domain name (the ones I noted down back then don't seem to work anymore) or returning 500 errors (http://uz/).

These examples should at least demonstrate that there shouldn't technically be some special case for resolving TLDs. They work in normal web browsers, and presumably a lack of A records for other TLDs would just be some sort of convention.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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No. It doesn't.

Why? Consider the scenario of a domain name owner dying and his relatives not caring/not knowing he/she owned a domain. With the current system the domain will be eventually available again. What alternative to you suggest?

How does a blockchain change this in any meaningful way?

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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How would the blockchain saying that you "own" a domain make you own it more than currently? It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain. This is the reason why wanting to apply blockchain to everything such as land ownership is laughable and shows how little blockchain fanatics understand about the very technology they praise.

> It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain True, but instead of having to trust a central authority for insertion, updating, removal and constant maintenance of your "ownership", the trust would only be required for insertion. Once you purchased a domain and it's inserted in the blockchain, no one (outside of yourself) should be ab…

Would this also handle domain expiry in some way?

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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post #113

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No. It doesn't.

Why? Consider the scenario of a domain name owner dying and his relatives not caring/not knowing he/she owned a domain. With the current system the domain will be eventually available again. What alternative to you suggest?

> With the current system the domain will be eventually available again.

Why is that a problem? Do you even understand how physical property IRL is owned at a legal or philosophical level?

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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my parents lease a car. I would regard it as their car, and possibly go so far as to say they own it, if I wasn't thinking too hard about it, and maybe even if I was. it's in their possession.

> I would regard it as their car, and possibly go so far as to say they own it, if I wasn't thinking too hard about it, and maybe even if I was. it's in their possession. Thought experiment: If they were to damage their vehicle (but assuming it's still legal to drive), who gets to decide whether it should - or indeed must - be repaired? Your parents, or someone else? (Full disclosure: I recently added some scratches…

> I don't need to involve the insurance company, I don't need to talk to any bank or finance company, I can simply go to any local independent provider and have the car repaired. Or indeed not, if I decide it's not worth it.

This is all true for a leased car as well. The only difference is that when you turn the leased car in at the end of the term, you may get charged by the leasing company for any damages that are currently on the car.

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