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Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dazc »

kickling wrote: post #22
josephcsible wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With traditional ownership, you can pay a lump sum of money for something up front, and then it's yours forever unless you decide to get rid of it. With domains, you have to keep paying over and over or your "ownership" gets revoked.

You do have the right to sell your domain for any price, but I guess it could be seen as owning a rental contract..

You are selling the rights of registration rather than the domain itself. So yes you are buying the domain so long as you keep paying the registration fees and comply with the rules set by the domain registry.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dazc »

usr1106 wrote: post #16
SuperCuber wrote: post #6

Looks like they are providing subdomains and sub-subdomains, not domains.

What's the difference for an end user except for the extra dot? Isn't that the same with co.uk or com.au? Americans may find that inconvenient, more radical tongues call it a sign of US imperialism that .com is often associated with the home for US companies. Right, technically and probably legally there was a list of domains that you cannot register because they act as a "top-level" like co.uk. Not sure how official…

> 'What's the difference for an end user except for the extra dot?'

You hold the domain at the whim of whoever controls the top level. Likely, they'll be less reliable than an official registry.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by permo-w »

mkmk3 wrote: post #25
iso1631 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ownership rights vary from culture to culture and from country to country. Even in the US you don't get to own something forever, you get to own it until someone takes it off you to build a shopping mall for example. In most countries, leased property is often referred to as "owned", yet you have to keep paying over and over to renew that lease.

Pretty surprising to me if others agree, if you lease a car you dont own that car, do you?

my parents lease a car. I would regard it as their car, and possibly go so far as to say they own it, if I wasn't thinking too hard about it, and maybe even if I was. it's in their possession.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by permo-w »

ibz wrote: post #24
meattle wrote: post #5

I’m involved with a URL shortener service. Service had to ban this domain as sub-domains from this domain seem to be loved by spammers/scammers to host their scams…

Free services attract spammers. No surprise. The "free" model is broken. Imagine how easy Twitter would get rid of spam accounts if they only charged a few sats per tweet.

sats?

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by afiori »

bipson wrote: post #30
ricardo81 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>technically The 'public suffix list' is one: https://publicsuffix.org/learn/

Wow, the guys from .aero had a few categories in mind... so did some south american countries. Does anyone know why bulgaria thought this was a good idea? > bg > (a-z).bg > (0-9).bg I can't find the mentioned "rules"-document... Edit: shorter representation of original list

have you seen the Italian and Japanese section of that document?

Italy registered subdomains for all its regions and provinces, including spelling variations.

All of the following domains are for the same region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trentino-Alto_Adige/S%C3%BCdti...

trentin-sud-tirol.it

trentin-süd-tirol.it

trentin-sudtirol.it

trentin-südtirol.it

trentin-sued-tirol.it

trentin-suedtirol.it

trentino-a-adige.it

trentino-aadige.it

trentino-alto-adige.it

trentino-altoadige.it

trentino-s-tirol.it

trentino-stirol.it

trentino-sud-tirol.it

trentino-süd-tirol.it

trentino-sudtirol.it

trentino-südtirol.it

trentino-sued-tirol.it

trentino-suedtirol.it

trentino.it

trentinoa-adige.it

trentinoaadige.it

trentinoalto-adige.it

trentinoaltoadige.it

trentinos-tirol.it

trentinostirol.it

trentinosud-tirol.it

trentinosüd-tirol.it

trentinosudtirol.it

trentinosüdtirol.it

trentinosued-tirol.it

trentinosuedtirol.it

trentinsud-tirol.it

trentinsüd-tirol.it

trentinsudtirol.it

trentinsüdtirol.it

trentinsued-tirol.it

trentinsuedtirol.it

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by furyg3 »

mkmk3 wrote: post #25
iso1631 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ownership rights vary from culture to culture and from country to country. Even in the US you don't get to own something forever, you get to own it until someone takes it off you to build a shopping mall for example. In most countries, leased property is often referred to as "owned", yet you have to keep paying over and over to renew that lease.

Pretty surprising to me if others agree, if you lease a car you dont own that car, do you?

Depends on how you think about it. You could say that you 'own' it but you have obligations (lease payments) or it will be seized. The same is true for property you 'own', if you don't pay your taxes or fail to manage the property, it will be seized.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by spacebanana7 »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #28
iso1631 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ownership rights vary from culture to culture and from country to country. Even in the US you don't get to own something forever, you get to own it until someone takes it off you to build a shopping mall for example. In most countries, leased property is often referred to as "owned", yet you have to keep paying over and over to renew that lease.

Name some of those countries.

Residential leasehold properties are often referred to as 'owned' in the UK [1] and Ireland [2] and can be bought with mortgages. However, the structure is quite controversial [3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leasehold_estate [2] https://mullinstreacy.ie/freehold-vs-leasehold/ [3] https://www.ft.com/content/b8068d5f-b4b9-4be6-a67e-1866fee68...

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by qurashee »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #28
iso1631 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ownership rights vary from culture to culture and from country to country. Even in the US you don't get to own something forever, you get to own it until someone takes it off you to build a shopping mall for example. In most countries, leased property is often referred to as "owned", yet you have to keep paying over and over to renew that lease.

Name some of those countries.

United Kingdom is one.
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