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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#191
This sounds like a petulant move. Musk has been acting like a child lately. The government is after him, the libs are after him. Everyone is just STIFLING his freedom to do whatever it is he can't do.

I bet he is doing this out of spite. The man has been acting really strange in the past few months.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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The idea of shareholders sidelining Musk is crazy. Shareholders paid him tens of billions to stay after he wanted to step down as CEO after Model 3 push. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/apr/21/elon-musk-s... Elon Musk is golden goose for Tesla shareholders.

The fact remains that Musk is the techbro Kanye West, and shareholders should sideline him.

They won't because it's a meme stock. There's no way they should be the largest us auto maker. People are or have bought Tesla stock because they like Elon. There's not that much value in the company.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#193

Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.

That's actually pretty standard practice. An official layoff at a large company is going to be kept to a pretty tight circle until it is officially announced. It isn't uncommon for hiring managers to be unaware and only know that currently they have open head count, even if the plan in the works is to include open positions as part of the reduction in force.

Even in small companies, I've definitely had times where I had to drop everyone in late stages (like offer negotiation) due to a surprise hiring freeze. I can't think of many times even when I've been in the exec meetings that I knew about it more than a few days in advance of everyone else.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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When people say “no desk” what they mean is “no space in the building to allocate a desk”.

they'll buy big cafeteria-style tables and eliminate individual desks

The ones that fold up to stack against the walls when the cafeteria needs to be used as the theater? The ones with the built in round, blue plastic seats? If not, you're thinking too nice.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#195

Interested to see this go down in parallel with Elon's "everyone must be in office decree". I have multiple friends that work at Tesla and at least one of them has it in their work contract to allow remote work for at least a year (they started 2 weeks ago). Not sure how his decree will work out (though I have only heard about the employment contract, not actually seen it).

Unless your friend lives in Montana, their employment is “at-will”. Which means at any time Tesla can change their mind on any aspect of the agreement and offer you a choice between a new contract or the door.

That’s not true. At will is almost never an excuse for violating contracts, employment law, or various discrimination protections. That said they can do it, but they would expose themselves to copious lawsuit liability.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Obviously, people who value their jobs show up earlier to claim a parking space and a desk. Coffee is for closers.

Might as well live at work.

Google has entered the chat with onsite laundry and free food.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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When people say "no space in the building to allocate a desk” they mean "No space to neatly put a desk." Companies have often shown repeatedly they can force desks into rooms when needed. Anyways, they can and will buy office space to put the desks when needed.

And am I the only person who has been in a startup going through a "two people per desk" period when growing rapidly?

Sounds like a luxury still, I got to the "elbows touching" stage. You couldn't put a hand between my screen and the screens of my coworkers. For quiet time I'd go to the kitchen table...

Summer was a challenge because the A/C couldn't keep up at all.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Parking space? Ride your bike or take public transport, individual cars are not the best option. Electric buses and trains and bikes (for moving people) and electric trucks (for moving goods) are really where the future is going to be.

That’s neat, but the USA has garbage public transport. Many towns just have none. I think it’s unreasonable to expect people to use a resource that just isn’t there in most cases.

The fact that the USA hasn't invested in the necessary infrastructure doesn't change the conclusion that efficient public transport systems (see Europe, see China) have huge benefits relative to a system that relies almost entirely on individual vehicles.
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