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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by usr1106 »

_heimdall wrote: post #19
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #6

Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.

That's actually pretty standard practice. An official layoff at a large company is going to be kept to a pretty tight circle until it is officially announced. It isn't uncommon for hiring managers to be unaware and only know that currently they have open head count, even if the plan in the works is to include open positions as part of the reduction in force.

Regulations often require that the stock exchange is told before the average hiring manager.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by cure »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #21
tootie wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's possible they are still hiring for software and laying off for other areas.

I'm sure that's the case. But personally I wouldn't want to be a SWE in that kind of scenario. Dumpster fire all around you and company as a whole pivoting to austerity while at the same time hiring 20+ software engineers? When I see that many open postings at once, alarm bells go off.

> When I see that many open postings at once, alarm bells go off.

It all depends on context though - for a company as massive as Tesla, 20+ open postings for SWE is nothing. It certainly doesn't warrant alarm bells, I think.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by steeleyespan »

sitkack wrote: post #96
lr wrote: post #81

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Why not WFT: Work From (a) Tesla? Of course, it would have to be, "at the office," (read, parking lot) otherwise the worker would get fired.

And since the Teslas are self driving, they can just roam the public roads while people work, an endless TS (Tesla Stream) cycling between two superchargers.

I remember when we were going to have FSD in 1 year, 10 years ago.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by bitwize »

Isinlor wrote: post #42
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #17

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The thing is, Tesla isn't a Coinbase. Tesla is now a giant manufacturing company that makes a lot of things, brings in revenue, and has some really solid engineering. I don't like their cars from a UX standpoint, but the engineering in their motors and battery packs are solid good products. Move fast and break things might have been fine in the early days. Seems to me like the company needs to 'grow up' and demonstra…

The idea of shareholders sidelining Musk is crazy. Shareholders paid him tens of billions to stay after he wanted to step down as CEO after Model 3 push. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/apr/21/elon-musk-s... Elon Musk is golden goose for Tesla shareholders.

The fact remains that Musk is the techbro Kanye West, and shareholders should sideline him.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by user3939382 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #6

Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.

> erratic decision making from Mr Musk

I'd be the last person to defend Elon Musk, I don't know the guy, but just want to point out that when you're at his level of wealth and power you also have very wealthy, powerful enemies.

I see ongoing, what appears to be coordinated, attempts in the mainstream/social media to paint him as crazy. I have no special access to the truth but I'd be unsurprised if those stories are 100% politically motivated and have no basis in reality.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by bryanlarsen »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #31
alkonaut wrote: post #24

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Except if yo lay off 10% you get to cut (at least some of) the 10% you want to get rid off. And if you rely on persuading people to quit by reducing satisfaction, you'll get rid of a large chunk of the 10% best employees instead.

Not really. The people who will flee because of this will also flee because of layoffs and look for somewhere more secure. And everyone is acting like the best employees are going to be the ones quitting. Nah, the best employees are highly engaged employees not ones that are technically talented but will flee just because they have to go to an office. Your most technically talented employees are often not your best e…

We had a great discussion about "The Elves Leave Middle Earth – Sodas Are No Longer Free" a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31573108

It talks about employees that were very productive and happy hitting a stumbling block and suddenly realizing that "hey, this isn't the same place it used to be", and then leaving.

Saying "no work from home" and "10% layoffs" are much bigger triggers for this than getting rid of free sodas.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by manuelabeledo »

adverbly wrote: post #23

Let me get this straight: "Work 80 hr weeks! Be just like me!" Musk: becomes worlds richest person Employees: laid off What planet do you live on where you see this as a sustainable, world-improving system for the world and for compensation? Anyone that works 50 hr weeks for this dude is out of their mind.

I yet have to see a wealthy individual working 80h/week, in an environment as physically and mentally demanding as their employees. Musk is not exception.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by selfportrait »

alkonaut wrote: post #15

> The message, sent on Thursday and titled “pause all hiring worldwide”, came two days after the billionaire told staff to return to the workplace or leave So people who claimed less than 24h ago it was at lest partially a way of creating cheap layoffs, were proven right pretty swiftly.

This is par for the course. Every time there is big news expected, Elon’s antics are elevated and a coordinated distraction by way of a tweet is posted. See the “political attacks on me” tweet as an example, which coincidentally was posted the day prior to his sexual assault allegations.

The man has bought Twitter for the purposes of distracting and manipulating the public.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by [deleted] »

itsoktocry wrote: post #58
that_guy_iain wrote: post #41

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I agree I don't think it'll be 2007-2008 bad. I think it'll be worse. Covid, Ukraine, Remote Work, etc are all hammering the economy.

> bad. I think it'll be worse. Different. 2007/08 was a financial crisis, and global banking infrastructure almost imploded. Here we're talking about deglobalization, supply chain issues and, well, a war . What's interesting is that the main problems may not be US focussed, it may happen around the world (although no one will be safe). For example, hard to imagine the Canadian real estate sector isn't going to melt d…

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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by myth_drannon »

itsoktocry wrote: post #58
that_guy_iain wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree I don't think it'll be 2007-2008 bad. I think it'll be worse. Covid, Ukraine, Remote Work, etc are all hammering the economy.

> bad. I think it'll be worse. Different. 2007/08 was a financial crisis, and global banking infrastructure almost imploded. Here we're talking about deglobalization, supply chain issues and, well, a war . What's interesting is that the main problems may not be US focussed, it may happen around the world (although no one will be safe). For example, hard to imagine the Canadian real estate sector isn't going to melt d…

"For example, hard to imagine the Canadian real estate sector isn't going to melt down..." - Oh, how many times did I hear that, but it's wishful thinking. At best it's 20% down
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