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Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by HWR_14 »

baobob wrote: post #479
HWR_14 wrote: post #418

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I wonder about being the sibling of someone that successful. Do you expect your bro to buy you a yacht and just party? Do you feel the need to compete? How can you?

I've thought about this too. I think the only sane option is to maintain a quiet life where you occasionally privately name drop to help your own networking. Who'd begrudge a sibling getting ahead in life with a little help from you? But meanwhile there is this. Can't imagine the internal dynamic between them w.r.t. how this portrays his hard earned professional image, I imagine words have been spoken

Maybe I'm a bad networker because it would never occur to me to namedrop a famous relative. Nor do I know it would be that useful, unless you want to act as a second appointment secretary to your relative filtering out deals to bring them.

I imagine you could couchsurf to the various vacation properties off-season when they would otherwise be empty, which would be nice.

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Post by istjohn »

jrumbut wrote: post #516
eyelidlessness wrote: post #501

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They do this kind of profile targeting so aggressively it’s absurd. I also almost only get animal content and the occasional post from an ace group I joined, because I generally only post pics of my pup and peak at said group once in a while. Every so often I get lured into looking at something I find politically awful, and just instantly I get inundated with even more awful productized distillation of it. If I so mu…

It is astonishing. I generally enjoy Facebook and while there are ads and click bait a lot of my feed is just my friends talking nicely, but it's a strange subset of friends. I tried clicking on a few profiles I hadn't seen in a while and a lot of them had nice posts too. I saw everything from them for about a month then it disappeared again. I am very worried about what will become of all the very private stuff in t…

It's such a shame. I would LOVE to keep in touch with news from friends and family with a simple chronological feed, but every social media company insists on shoveling trash down my throat with an algorithm.

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Post by specialist »

amrrs wrote: post #362
atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

Mark Zuckerberg's interview with Lex Fridman changed my perception about him. He seems really an empathetic person. Maybe he's too deep into his own dogma but he's definitely not robotic. https://youtu.be/5zOHSysMmH0

I'll listen. I'm struggling to imagine how an empathetic person can be totally amoral and an ethical void.

Hearing Zuck pontificate about freedom of speech made me kick a puppy.

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Post by specialist »

shuckles wrote: post #61

I am always deeply saddened by the fact that so much of our digital social infrastructure was built by a company with little humanity. How many interactions have been enhanced, as opposed to monetized, by Facebook technology? My understanding is Sheryl was a supporter of this numbers based approach to the business, and maybe this will be a change for the better.

Yes and: Facebook's algorithmic hate machine is the paper clip maximizer of understanding the human psyche. Facebook understanding of hate and fear are unsurpassed, at the expense of every other human quality.

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Post by whack »

glofish wrote: post #467
mmaunder wrote: post #359

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Don’t confuse investor sobriety after an epic party with strategic miscalculation. Zuck is taking a gamble. Good for him. It’s extremely rare for a big co to have the balls and for leadership to have the autonomy to do this these days. He has both. He may fail. But at least he took a big hairy audacious risky shot at first to market and a chance at being what Steve Jobs is to smart phones. I wouldn’t count him out ju…

Isn't every terrible business decision a gamble that "could have paid off" if one thing or another happened? Being wrongly infatuated with a concept as Meta seems with metaverse is not a gamble IMHO. It seem more like a stupid decision done by someone that became successful by being in the right place at the right time. And now they want to prove that it wasn't an accident and that they have it takes to repeat hence…

> It seem more like a stupid decision done by someone that became successful by being in the right place at the right time

This is massively underselling what led to Facebook's success. As someone who started using Facebook-alternatives in 2001, there were a ton of competing social networks at the time. Many very superficially similar to Facebook, and many with a multi-year headstart. FB drove them all to extinction and became the social network via a combination of great product management, and engineering execution. And this was all led by a teenager in his second year of college. The vast majority of people in his shoes would not have achieved the outcome that he did.

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Post by karaterobot »

urthor wrote: post #425
Firmwarrior wrote: post #293

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I hate Facebook more than most people, but I have to admit that I can believe this. I noticed that the news always seems to go out of its way to find inhuman-looking badly-tinted photos of him making strange expressions. Lately he's become something of a scapegoat IMO, probably because an introverted billionaire with some creepy tendencies/background makes such an easy target.

It reminds me of what we got from Hilary Clinton in 2016. Whatever you think of the Clintons, the photos by the articles on the Fox News website or the New York post didn't show a human being. It'd be an art gallery of photographic stills, to destroy someone's humanity. A 1/100 second exposure, frozen in time, can make someone resemble something they're not.

This is one of the heuristics I use to judge the trustworthiness of newspapers and magazines: do they choose photos of people that make them look like idiots? If so, their bias may show up in more subtle ways, too. Whatever you think about the possibility of objective journalism, an editor can do better than choosing a demeaning photo of someone they don't like.

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Post by radicality »

schrep wrote: post #313
atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

I’ve worked directly for Mark and closely with Sheryl for nearly 14 years and this is very accurate.

Hi schrep! Unrelated to the article, but I wanted to say thanks for taking the time to talk to me at the 'Silicon Valley comes to Cambridge' event in Nov 2010, back when I was just a 2nd year cs student! You not only motivated me to aim high and to apply to FB, but also actually submitted an internship referral! I didn't end up doing an internship that year (was my first ever coding interview and I did not do well!!), but partly because of this very positive interaction, I later on did end up joining Facebook right out of university! I spent seven years there from 2014 to 2021 working on messaging infra and had a great time (and i miss our infra stack)! Thanks again for talking to a clueless 2nd year student back then!

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Post by lambo4bkfast »

glofish wrote: post #467
mmaunder wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t confuse investor sobriety after an epic party with strategic miscalculation. Zuck is taking a gamble. Good for him. It’s extremely rare for a big co to have the balls and for leadership to have the autonomy to do this these days. He has both. He may fail. But at least he took a big hairy audacious risky shot at first to market and a chance at being what Steve Jobs is to smart phones. I wouldn’t count him out ju…

Isn't every terrible business decision a gamble that "could have paid off" if one thing or another happened? Being wrongly infatuated with a concept as Meta seems with metaverse is not a gamble IMHO. It seem more like a stupid decision done by someone that became successful by being in the right place at the right time. And now they want to prove that it wasn't an accident and that they have it takes to repeat hence…

I think the point is that it is too soon to say the bet hasn't paid off, maybe it pays off many years from now.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by dmitriid »

glofish wrote: post #420
nickysielicki wrote: post #400

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To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…

Each of these: Markeplace, Forums, Messenger are non sticky and with countless alternatives. For example one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people. I still use Craigslist, I think it works better and has better organization of categories. The main Facebook app, now that is a unique product - yet frankly, from my perspective it feels completely marginalized, the content there is in w…

All that can circle down the drain really quickly.

Facebook was my go to place to find events around me. Now they've dumbed down the page and removed the ability to search by date and location, and made it useless.

The same can and will happen to their other properties.

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Post by AlbertCory »

MichaelBurge wrote: post #456
AlbertCory wrote: post #448

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craigslist also has this problem, and it does seem pretty easily fixable, to my naive eyes: someone has said "your price is fair, my agent will be over to pick it up with a cashier's check" for every single thing I've sold on craigslist. I don't think filtering out scumbags like this is a terribly hard problem.

Is the cashier's check fake? What happens if you meet them at the listed bank and ask them to convert it to cash right there?

You can find stories about this. I don't have the link, but we have Google for that.

Basically, the bank will cash it, and days later, discover it's fake and demand that YOU give them the money back. There's a time delay which the scumbags are exploiting.

Cops put "financial crimes" way down their priority list.

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