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Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by davidatbu »

visarga wrote: post #43
mark_l_watson wrote: post #6

It is their right to ban any use they want. Colab is an awesome service, so much so that I seldom use my at-home GPU rig. As consumers we can use or not use platforms like Google, Twitter, etc. as we like, or not. Colab’s ban will be good for small 3rd party GPU cloud providers and that is a good thing. Same thing with Twitter: in the last month there is now better material on Mastodon.

> Colab is an awesome service, so much so that I seldom use my at-home GPU rig. Can you use Colab from VSCode? Notebooks are great for exploration but not for complex projects.

So I really dislike Jupyter, and I've tried using this[0] before to ssh into Colab and do work in a terminal setup.

You have to be careful to back up your code frequently (what I did was push to Github) since your ssh session goes away when your "kernel" (or whatever your colab session is called) goes away. You wouldn't have this worry if you were just using the web interface, since the code is always saved.

I'd imagine that, if you want to use VSCode, it's remote editing features, which I keep on hearing a lot about, would come in handy to edit over ssh!

[0] https://github.com/WassimBenzarti/colab-ssh

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by UmbertoNoEco »

dreamyfigment wrote: post #46

I wonder if we'll end up in a future where gaming GPUs will be restricted from running ML algorithms, to prevent private individuals from running advanced deepfakes/DALLE-10 or whatever.

That's a scary and realistic future.

Any good (fiction or non-fiction) book on this? By "this" I mean governments trying to control overtly or secretly the use of computing resources. Bonus points if it is not Charlie Stross (I can't stand his writings).

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by andrewnicolalde »

willcipriano wrote: post #28
endisneigh wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Class action, violation of the Terms and Conditions. I'd honestly be shocked if Google/Microsoft are monitoring the clients of their public cloud and keeping the data to create their own products off of.

The terms and conditions almost certainly bind you to arbitration so no class action.

What about Europe?

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by schoen »

loo wrote: post #45
fartcannon wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody said anything about private or public. What was said was 'everything they can get their hands on'. Thou doth protest too much.

That includes private data. Thou critical thinkest too little.

I think you want "thinkest" (2nd person) rather than "thinketh" (3rd person).

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thinkest

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by Spooky23 »

endisneigh wrote: post #20
fartcannon wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yeah, how?

Class action, violation of the Terms and Conditions. I'd honestly be shocked if Google/Microsoft are monitoring the clients of their public cloud and keeping the data to create their own products off of.

They’d need to be very careful in doing so, as they both operate services that are certified and audited to meet US Gov FedRAMP High control standards, and doing that would violate several audited control standards.

A breach in that area would cost them potentially billions in losses.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by nmiculinic »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #24
version_five wrote: post #5

I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

Is there a good alternative to Colab you can just pay for, that's good for hobbyist individuals? Especially one that gives you shell access? I tried using PaperSpace for a while but it works maybe 1 in 3 times I tried to use it, they (temporarily) banned me for no reason, they send me "itemized" bills with empty line items, and their support was no help.

Disclaimer: I work there.

https://www.grid.ai/

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by [deleted] »

version_five wrote: post #5

I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Post by fartcannon »

endisneigh wrote: post #42
fartcannon wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody said anything about private or public. What was said was 'everything they can get their hands on'. Thou doth protest too much.

everything they can get their hands on includes both private and public data? they have access to the private data, by definition. the entire point is that it's not exposed nor is it used. clearly you've never worked at one of the companies in question lol. when you're on-call you might need to actually access private data. true data sovereignty products are something countries in the EU are wanting USA companies to…

Google needs to spend more on PR I think.
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