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Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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The existence of copilot, for one.

that's not proof, lol. That uses publicly available code. are you suggesting it's trained on private code? not to mention I was talking about cloud workloads since you said everything

Nobody said anything about private or public. What was said was 'everything they can get their hands on'. Thou doth protest too much.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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that's not proof, lol. That uses publicly available code. are you suggesting it's trained on private code? not to mention I was talking about cloud workloads since you said everything

Nobody said anything about private or public. What was said was 'everything they can get their hands on'. Thou doth protest too much.

everything they can get their hands on includes both private and public data?

they have access to the private data, by definition. the entire point is that it's not exposed nor is it used. clearly you've never worked at one of the companies in question lol. when you're on-call you might need to actually access private data.

true data sovereignty products are something countries in the EU are wanting USA companies to implement though, so then it's simply inaccessible, not public or private.

the industry is moving in this direction with things like AWS Outposts

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

#43

It is their right to ban any use they want. Colab is an awesome service, so much so that I seldom use my at-home GPU rig. As consumers we can use or not use platforms like Google, Twitter, etc. as we like, or not. Colab’s ban will be good for small 3rd party GPU cloud providers and that is a good thing. Same thing with Twitter: in the last month there is now better material on Mastodon.

> Colab is an awesome service, so much so that I seldom use my at-home GPU rig.

Can you use Colab from VSCode? Notebooks are great for exploration but not for complex projects.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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It turns out that nature doesn't make SAAS This is an extremely expensive service to make and run, requiring tens of millions of dollars of hardware to get started, and doesn't produce revenue Instead of folksy sayings, see if you can answer the actual question What motivation does another company have for creating this service?

Make people depends on ecosystem. I'll see AWS/Azure/NVIDIA doing smth like that as that just to create they own ecosystem as its extremely profitable to sell gpu VM's for them.

I presume it's like Microsoft turning a blind eye to unlicensed use of Windows and Office for home users. When they get hired they already prefer MS solutions they know since they were students.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

#45

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that's not proof, lol. That uses publicly available code. are you suggesting it's trained on private code? not to mention I was talking about cloud workloads since you said everything

Nobody said anything about private or public. What was said was 'everything they can get their hands on'. Thou doth protest too much.

That includes private data. Thou critical thinkest too little.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Because nature abhors a vacuum, and this technology has created one.

It turns out that nature doesn't make SAAS This is an extremely expensive service to make and run, requiring tens of millions of dollars of hardware to get started, and doesn't produce revenue Instead of folksy sayings, see if you can answer the actual question What motivation does another company have for creating this service?

> turns out that nature doesn't make SAAS

E pur si existit.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Is there a good alternative to Colab you can just pay for, that's good for hobbyist individuals? Especially one that gives you shell access? I tried using PaperSpace for a while but it works maybe 1 in 3 times I tried to use it, they (temporarily) banned me for no reason, they send me "itemized" bills with empty line items, and their support was no help.

What's wrong with Colab Pro out of curiosity (assuming you don't already know of it, which isn't restricted like the free version)?

Last time I checked it wasn't available outside the US and Canada at all, and didn't have a terminal, but I just checked and both of those seem to have changed.

I'm also not a fan of having to upload files to Google Drive and then write special code to import them. It means my code isn't portable to run locally or anywhere else and it's just extra effort. I just want normal file access and to write scripts like I normally would.

Still, I was spurred to ask the question because some people are categorically opposed to anything Google due to privacy issues.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

Is there a good alternative to Colab you can just pay for, that's good for hobbyist individuals? Especially one that gives you shell access? I tried using PaperSpace for a while but it works maybe 1 in 3 times I tried to use it, they (temporarily) banned me for no reason, they send me "itemized" bills with empty line items, and their support was no help.

Azure and JetBrains both offer jupyter notebooks too

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

#50

I wonder if we'll end up in a future where gaming GPUs will be restricted from running ML algorithms, to prevent private individuals from running advanced deepfakes/DALLE-10 or whatever.

I mean Nvidia has already tried to do that with crypto mining
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