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Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Because nature abhors a vacuum, and this technology has created one.

It turns out that nature doesn't make SAAS This is an extremely expensive service to make and run, requiring tens of millions of dollars of hardware to get started, and doesn't produce revenue Instead of folksy sayings, see if you can answer the actual question What motivation does another company have for creating this service?

>What motivation does another company have for creating this service?

They won't need to create this deepfake training specifically, they just need to turn a blind eye to their existing hardware being applied this way.

Three motivations come to mind:

1. It's a convenient selling point to grow the user base. "We give you complete freedom to run your models and don't spy on you like the other guys do! We will never stop you from doing things unless the government forces us to!"

2. It's an easy way to frontrun criminal activity that is poised to disrupt society in the near future. Hire a CEO with a cool sounding hacker name, advertise on a bunch of telegram groups, while secretly logging all identifiers and making all inputs/outputs searchable by law enforcement :)

3. By owning the data used to train and generate Deepfakes, you have a rich dataset that could be used academically or for training counter-models to detect future Deepfakes.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I really do not like that because the ban feels fuzzy. If you are a researcher exploring those algorithms and using Colab because you have very limited GPU access of you own, you might now be worried that your very own topic of research will get you banned from the ressource you are using.

It's only banned for the free tier.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Good for all of us maybe some good alternatives to colab will be created cause of that.

They already exist. The market for SAAS Jupyter is already crowded. Azure Notebooks, Github Codespaces, Kaggle Kernels, AWS SageMaker, CoCalc, Datalore, Binder...

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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It is their right to ban any use they want. Colab is an awesome service, so much so that I seldom use my at-home GPU rig. As consumers we can use or not use platforms like Google, Twitter, etc. as we like, or not. Colab’s ban will be good for small 3rd party GPU cloud providers and that is a good thing. Same thing with Twitter: in the last month there is now better material on Mastodon.

And the authors are using their rights to free expression to criticize Google. No rights have been taken away. So its all good.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

They do all the harvesting. Everything they can. Every morsel of data they can get, they get.

Same thing Microsoft does with Windows, github and VSCode.

Just hoovering up all the ideas you have.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

They do all the harvesting. Everything they can. Every morsel of data they can get, they get. Same thing Microsoft does with Windows, github and VSCode. Just hoovering up all the ideas you have.

if you can prove this you can make a lot of money

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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They do all the harvesting. Everything they can. Every morsel of data they can get, they get. Same thing Microsoft does with Windows, github and VSCode. Just hoovering up all the ideas you have.

if you can prove this you can make a lot of money

Oh yeah, how?

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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if you can prove this you can make a lot of money

Oh yeah, how?

Class action, violation of the Terms and Conditions.

I'd honestly be shocked if Google/Microsoft are monitoring the clients of their public cloud and keeping the data to create their own products off of.

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