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Re: I/O 2022

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Post by joshuamorton »

valbaca wrote: post #19

Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

If by "they" you mean "the entire industry" then yes. Basically all vision products are notoriously bad at dealing with darker skin tones.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by Hasu »

staunch wrote: post #44
systemvoltage wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t like to gush over any leader and stop stuffing words in my mouth. I’m stating the “era” (2000-2010) keynotes were super fun, original and exciting. W̶h̶a̶t̶’̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶h̶o̶s̶t̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶? (You've edited your comment, thanks).

> What’s with so much hostility? There's a popular and cynical meme that people like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are just marketing bullshitters that don't actually do anything useful. It's laughably false and easily disproved. And yet it seems to comfort cynical/pessimistic/unhappy/ignorant people, of which many exist, and so it prevails.

"There's a popular and cynical meme" is another way of phrasing, "There are people who evaluate these people's contributions differently than I do"

> It's laughably false and easily disproved.

Then disprove it, instead of relying on an ad hominem assumption of what's going on inside someone else's brain. As it stands all you've done is claim that a criticism exists and that the people who state that criticism have moral failings, which does not make them wrong.

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

retskrad wrote: post #2

Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

The only thing I care these days about Google's announcements is "what did they break in Android this time?"

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by azangru »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

> And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

Yes. I haven't yet watched talks from this IO, but it was exactly my impression from last year's IO and Chrome Dev Summit. There are some speakers, mostly dev rels, who clearly love speaking and are great at it; but most of the speakers were just woodenly reading from the screen. As if they are unaware that written language is different from spoken language, and it takes rare skills to write a speech and then read it back to the audience in such a way that would sound natural and engaging.

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Post by CydeWeys »

systemvoltage wrote: post #28
lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I miss Steve Jobs era of keynotes. All keynotes are just so dull today. What went wrong?

This is a mature industry; each company simply doesn't have a lot of new groundbreaking stuff to announce every year. It's iterative.

And a lot of the seemingly groundbreaking announcements then don't go on to pan out either (I'm thinking of Magic Leap here). If you don't care about realism/follow-through, then you have very exciting announcements; just don't expect anything announced to ever pan out.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by akomtu »

cogman10 wrote: post #20
lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

They've become really disappointing. When Google IO started it was a nice fun tech presentation with a lot of side classes showing devs how to work with these new google technologies. Now, it's mostly just google introducing new products to the press.

I doubt it's press who is the audience. People behind these projects want to be seen by SVPs and above, so they get those 5 minutes of attention, get their promos and immediately switch teams to chase the next promo.

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Post by MarkSweep »

izzydata wrote: post #46
lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I think Apple, Samsung and Google should give up on this whole iPhone 13 and Pixel 6 naming and numbering scheme and stop pretending like it is going to be an exciting brand new product every single year. They should name them more like cars where you can always expect there to be the latest revision each year, but you never expect it to be something completely new that you need to upgrade to. We need the iPhone (202…

I believe Samsung has started to do this with their Galaxy S series of phones, starting with the S20 in 2020. This years phone is the S22 for 2022.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by drusepth »

rpmisms wrote: post #50

Pixel 6a dropped the headphone jack. Great. Gotta find another brand now.

Any recommendations? I've been holding off on upgrading my shattered-screen 3a for almost 6 months assuming I'd get the 6a when it released, so pretty much anything would be an upgrade at this point.

I'm really just looking for a good camera, a headphone jack, and a good battery.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by corrral »

sidibe wrote: post #5
retskrad wrote: post #2

Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

All of these events are dull. I don't see why WWDC get people any more hyped except that they have a lot more fans.

When I did a lot of dual-platform mobile dev, the teams would always watch Google and Apple events.

The Apple ones were exciting, because they'd usually announce a bunch of OS and development-related stuff we could start using very soon.

The Google ones were kind of a bummer, because the (appropriate and justified) mood in the room was "well, this feature might be cool to use... in five years or so." The only people who got excited about them were the hardcore Android fans who weren't excited about dev-facing features, but because they'd always buy whatever new Pixel or whatever that was announced, ASAP.

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