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Re: I/O 2022

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Post by systemvoltage »

sidibe wrote: post #37
systemvoltage wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss Steve Jobs era of keynotes. All keynotes are just so dull today. What went wrong?

If you like to gush over exciting announcements there's still Musk. Unfortunately it's been many years since his company actually built anything he announces

I don’t like to gush over any leader and stop stuffing words in my mouth. I’m stating the “era” (2000-2010) keynotes were super fun, original and exciting. W̶h̶a̶t̶’̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶h̶o̶s̶t̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶? (You've edited your comment, thanks).

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by staunch »

sidibe wrote: post #37
systemvoltage wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss Steve Jobs era of keynotes. All keynotes are just so dull today. What went wrong?

If you like to gush over exciting announcements there's still Musk. Unfortunately it's been many years since his company actually built anything he announces

It's not merely "gushing" to be excited about new technology breakthroughs. And Musk, through his companies, is actively delivering today on Starlink, Tesla, Dragon, and Starship to name a few big ones. This meme that he's "all talk" is easily disproved for any honest observer.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by staunch »

systemvoltage wrote: post #41
sidibe wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you like to gush over exciting announcements there's still Musk. Unfortunately it's been many years since his company actually built anything he announces

I don’t like to gush over any leader and stop stuffing words in my mouth. I’m stating the “era” (2000-2010) keynotes were super fun, original and exciting. W̶h̶a̶t̶’̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶h̶o̶s̶t̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶? (You've edited your comment, thanks).

> What’s with so much hostility?

There's a popular and cynical meme that people like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are just marketing bullshitters that don't actually do anything useful. It's laughably false and easily disproved. And yet it seems to comfort cynical/pessimistic/unhappy/ignorant people, of which many exist, and so it prevails.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by GeekyBear »

enos_feedler wrote: post #8
sidibe wrote: post #5

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All of these events are dull. I don't see why WWDC get people any more hyped except that they have a lot more fans.

WWDC and other Apple events justify more hype because they are market leaders in mobile. When you watch an Apple event you are often seeing things for the first time. Google Pixel is blatantly copying the Apple product portfolio, from custom chip designs to now Airpod Pro clones. Where would Google be with Pixel if Apple didn't exist? It is literally spun up division to copy the most valuable company in the world. We…

> Google Pixel is blatantly copying the Apple product portfolio, from custom chip designs to now Airpod Pro clones.

Google relentlessly copies every other company in the industry, and it's been going on for years now.

>You can look at Google’s entire portfolio of launches over the past decade, and trace nearly all of them to copying a competitor: Google+ (Facebook), Google Cloud (AWS), Google Home (Amazon Echo), Allo (WhatsApp), Android Instant Apps (Facebook, WeChat), Google Assistant (Apple/Siri), and on and on and on. They are stuck in me-too mode and have been for years. They simply don’t have innovation in their DNA any more. And it’s because their eyes are fixed on their competitors, not their customers.

https://steve-yegge.medium.com/why-i-left-google-to-join-gra...

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by izzydata »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I think Apple, Samsung and Google should give up on this whole iPhone 13 and Pixel 6 naming and numbering scheme and stop pretending like it is going to be an exciting brand new product every single year.

They should name them more like cars where you can always expect there to be the latest revision each year, but you never expect it to be something completely new that you need to upgrade to.

We need the iPhone (2023) and the Pixel (2023). You would just say you have "an iPhone" and if for whatever reason it is necessary you could say it is a 2023 model.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by fullstop »

uoaei wrote: post #14
mrwnmonm wrote: post #4

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Also, it was interesting how quickly Apple made very good offline conferences after covid, as if they were developing it for years.

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Presumably OP meant "after covid was a thing" and not "after covid was over" (which will never happen)

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by izzydata »

systemvoltage wrote: post #28
lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I miss Steve Jobs era of keynotes. All keynotes are just so dull today. What went wrong?

Technology was advancing more rapidly so there were actually new and exciting things to show you. We seem to be hitting diminishing returns and most of the low hanging fruit and almost all the high hanging fruit problems that we have in our day to day lives have been solved that can be solved with a computer.

Now since they have run out of problems to solve they are inventing problems so they can solve them.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by Workaccount2 »

indy wrote: post #7
retskrad wrote: post #2

Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

There's no hype because they don't have anything to show that deserves hype. It's all the same: AI to improve photos, AI to improve translations and small iterative improvements to Android that you swear were shown at a Google IO event years ago Edit: watching the livestream and they've just announced an Android tablet! Honestly this déjà vu is getting ridiculous

When are they going to announce "Corporate restructuring with a focus on product dedication"...
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