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Re: I/O 2022

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I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

Re: I/O 2022

#12
The North Glasses with AR in that Google acquisition was a long time coming to be shown off and was as expected [0] but I'm very surprised that this acquisition of North was overlooked [1] by many.

Importantly, this is where the race for AR/XR glasses starts and begins to be interesting. They needed to show off something tangible in the end to still show that they are still in the race.

Maybe Apple already started years ago and are waiting for others to do it wrong (again) and will try to time it again.

We'll see.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29568018

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29567471

Re: I/O 2022

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Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

Also, it was interesting how quickly Apple made very good offline conferences after covid, as if they were developing it for years.

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Re: I/O 2022

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All of these events are dull. I don't see why WWDC get people any more hyped except that they have a lot more fans.

WWDC and other Apple events justify more hype because they are market leaders in mobile. When you watch an Apple event you are often seeing things for the first time. Google Pixel is blatantly copying the Apple product portfolio, from custom chip designs to now Airpod Pro clones. Where would Google be with Pixel if Apple didn't exist? It is literally spun up division to copy the most valuable company in the world. We…

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." -Steve Jobs

Re: I/O 2022

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There's no hype because they don't have anything to show that deserves hype. It's all the same: AI to improve photos, AI to improve translations and small iterative improvements to Android that you swear were shown at a Google IO event years ago Edit: watching the livestream and they've just announced an Android tablet! Honestly this déjà vu is getting ridiculous

Not to mention Google Wallet, an "amazing new" product by the same name of an existing product they keep renaming and haven't finished retiring yet. They could just say they were updating Google Wallet or whatever it's called now, but I guess you don't get promoted for that. I laughed when the Pixel guy (before announcing the tablet) said they don't usually announce products so far in advance. Has he seen Google I/O?

> said they don't usually announce products so far in advance

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Re: I/O 2022

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Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

Also, it was interesting how quickly Apple made very good offline conferences after covid, as if they were developing it for years.

Apple's online WWDC content has very good production value, but a bunch of well-produced videos dropped over the course of a week don't really make it a "conference".

Microsoft, with their BUILD conference a couple years ago, actually had the best implementation of a COVID-era virtual "conference" that I've seen-- lots of actual live content (and live chat interaction), and to some extent some of the content was actually superior to a real-world conference because the online format (taking questions via chat) makes Q&A more feasible than it would be in person.

Re: I/O 2022

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Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI.

Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end)

https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/

https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/

https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

Re: I/O 2022

#20

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

They've become really disappointing.

When Google IO started it was a nice fun tech presentation with a lot of side classes showing devs how to work with these new google technologies.

Now, it's mostly just google introducing new products to the press.

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