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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Back when youtube had a good UI it was real ratings, you could rank videos 1-5 https://techcrunch.com/2009/09/22/youtube-comes-to-a-5-star-... then it """optimized""" out the middle ratings( Middle ratings were the more honest ones, perfect videos are rare and 1-ratings we often unjustified) to 1=dislike 5=like, where everything is simplified to single click mobile engagement. I would like a 1 to 10 rating scale and make MORE refined rating choices, not vague "likes"(currently YT has only 1-5 star rating for rare question-type prompts with video on homepage for logged in users when it needs feedback). Making 5/10 7/10 and 9/10 videos rank the same with "likes" lowers quality of ratings substantially.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#463

Back when youtube had a good UI it was real ratings, you could rank videos 1-5 https://techcrunch.com/2009/09/22/youtube-comes-to-a-5-star-... then it """optimized""" out the middle ratings( Middle ratings were the more honest ones, perfect videos are rare and 1-ratings we often unjustified) to 1=dislike 5=like, where everything is simplified to single click mobile engagement. I would like a 1 to 10 rating scale and…

Same thing happened with Netflix. IMO recommendations were much better when you could rate with 5-stars

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

YT would probably help this issue quite a bit by requiring thumbnails to be actual captures from the video content rather than up-loadable clickbait images... For years now their uploader only picks the 3 worst possible shots from content to be used, and channels create bright thumbnails that often don't reflect the actual content at all.

You get more views on any video by adding totally non-relevant thumbnails with colorful graphics and cleavage in them, and it's totally stupid when it comes to important topics that the absolute worst content ranks first because of what thumbnail it has.

I am exhausted with complaining about this issue, search results on YT have been totally maligned with finding the best content that I search reddit and Twitter now for useful YT content primarily. Also, the filter options are a total joke, and spammy titles are now rampant on the platform for everything.

MGMT should really feel ashamed for the lack of meaningful scaling over the years on the YT platform.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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I am convinced the not interested button does absolutely nothing.

I'm baffled by people who says things like this. I make heavy use of both "Not Interested" and "Don't recommend Channel". They don't do as much as I would like (why oh why does Youtube insist on thinking I'm interested in obscure Rap/Hip Hop?), but I can clearly see recommendations shift over time. Marking any single video doesn't seem to do much, but marking 5-10 similar videos (mostly) does something.

Paid promotion (by channels) breaks past the barriers... It's part of the conflict of maintaining the illusion that sponsored content is what gets first placement throughout YouTube.

Its also maddening to content creators how newly upload content lists only feature paid promotional content every time. That's also exactly what makes certain (paid) content look massively popular over everything else, even when the production values are sub-par.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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I have done it a lot for around a year, but i think than the block list is very limited, because after a will the same "blocked" channels come back again in the list. I have now stopped to use this fake feature. I am sure of it because i regularly block official news or music channels, but they appear again anyway after a wile. It's the same for the "not interested" feature. I have stop to tell them, when asked, why…

this isn't true. I have clicked "no interested" on hundreds of videos and channels. It works

Everyone on platforms now has a different experience because of configuration and account maturity. Invalidating another user's experience because of yours is not helpful to meaningful discussion. I did not downvote you though.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

This is another clearly automated channel I found recently.

For some reason I was searching for some game music I remembered from childhood (OMF 2097), and came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV1F_IwdceU

It was strange, because it was titled like “how to play this music”, except clearly it was just a MIDI file piped through a visualisation into the video; as a musician I know it’s useless for the task at hand.

Looking at the other videos on the channel, I found dozens and dozens of the exact same video intro, except with a new MIDI file: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCiu4h1KfC9ODVz90JRogdg/vid...

Presumably the author has automated this by scraping tons of free MIDI files, rendering them to video, prepending a generic video intro, and hoping to cash in.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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where does the extension get the data from, though? it's not like they just have to remove a `display: none` somewhere.

Apparently, the Youtube API documented here - https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/videos - returns both likes and dislikes. All Google did was remove the rendering of that API response field onto the webpage. Extensions probably acquire the video url and make their own API call just to retrieve the dislike count. To me, that seems cleaner than trying to snoop on the main API call response (I think extension…

No see the other comments, they disabled this ability for non channel owners.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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post #443

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What feedback mechanism would you use to filter the crap? There is no longer an incentive for users to down-vote (assuming you managed to even get that data). And such a search engine needs a literal army of users providing signal to evaluate the quality of content as it is released.

> There is no longer an incentive for users to down-vote I don't get that. It should have the exact same incentive to down-vote, unless you think Google no longer collects or uses that information as opposed to just hiding it.

Downvotes are used by google to suggest content. If you downvoted something, you engaged with it, which google loves and wants more of.

The incentive for users/viewers to downvote something has always been to give other viewers a heads up. This doesn’t work anymore

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