YouTube still has dislikes. They just don't show the count publicly any more.
I don't think that works for newly created videos. You can bring up the count for old videos, but I don't believe you can add new dislikes.
No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have done it a lot for around a year, but i think than the block list is very limited, because after a will the same "blocked" channels come back again in the list. I have now stopped to use this fake feature. I am sure of it because i regularly block official news or music channels, but they appear again anyway after a wile. It's the same for the "not interested" feature. I have stop to tell them, when asked, why…
I am convinced the not interested button does absolutely nothing.
It does at least blacklist that exact video.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
I genuinely don’t understand why Google got it right with Circles, realizing we have different orthogonal interests… but all my YouTube subscriptions go in a giant pile, as if advanced math, news, and rap videos are fungible content. I want some ability to create sets of channels with a focus and only access that when I want to. I think the problem is that YouTube has always been a manipulative and exploitative platf…
Maybe it's finding some connection like math rap-focused music theory (lots of triplets) rap. I like an eclectic timeline, and YouTube could be optimizing for that, but I can see how it would be annoying if you don't dig that.
The problem is more fundamental:
Those are all things I like, but I don’t want most of them most of the time — and YouTube gives me no way to signal what state I’m in. And because it shoves them all in a large pile, I get very few if any recommendations related to what Im looking for right now.
People are faceted, but YouTube fails to design UX to accommodate that reality — instead trying to be everything at once and so failing to be anything, ever.
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#324I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…
> YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar
> The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now they've probably uploaded a few videos in the past couple minutes.
I thought that this must be an exaggeration but I just looked at the account and at this time the account has 20 videos posted in the last hour.
I know Youtube/Google has a ton of resources -- but won't accounts with garbage/spammy content like this cause long-term issues in regard to wasting resources? Surely, Youtube would protect itself against something like this in its ToS, right?
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#325I watch YouTube without logging in. The quality of recommendations I get is pretty good. I would say that I get very different recommendations on different browsers at different times so your mileage may vary.
1. Don't log in. Ever. 2. Search. YT search is ... reasonable. Not great, but it typically turns up what you want. 3. Incognito mode *ONLY*. 4. Invidious, if at all possible. 5. Watch, or more often, listen , through a third-party client. I generally "experience" YouTube via mpv. I'll cue up a list of URLs I'm interested in. This is the most effective and convenient way of curating a playlist I'm aware of. VLC can al…
Actually, I HATE youtube search. Any search engine that changes and reorders responses when I click back to it drives me up a wall.
I infrequently use youtube (maybe 2-3 videos a month) and because the search sucks so badly, I never search using youtube, but rather with Kagi or DDG video search.
Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe it's finding some connection like math rap-focused music theory (lots of triplets) rap. I like an eclectic timeline, and YouTube could be optimizing for that, but I can see how it would be annoying if you don't dig that.
The problem is more fundamental: Those are all things I like, but I don’t want most of them most of the time — and YouTube gives me no way to signal what state I’m in. And because it shoves them all in a large pile, I get very few if any recommendations related to what Im looking for right now. People are faceted, but YouTube fails to design UX to accommodate that reality — instead trying to be everything at once and…
I don't know about in the apps, but the web page has a row of tags above the videos that let you filter by topic. They're personalized, so you might have tags for those topics.
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#327Adjust your adblocker settings, browser extensions, and remove/change your mobile/smart TV app so you do not see recommendations. My life is way better without recommendations, homepage, related, etc. Here are some of the things I use:
- uBlock Origin (allows me to hand pick items on a page to hide) - Enhancer for YouTube: Firefox extension that gives me control - SmartTubeNext: YouTube app for FireTV that lets me skips ads, hide home page, and even skip in-video promotions. It's still magical each time. - NewPipe: YouTube app for Android that allows ad-skipping, Shorts hiding, etc. There's not anything in the App Store like this but you might be able to build one your own using open source (https://github.com/MrAdamBoyd/DownTube)
If anyone else has similar tools that you like, I'm very interested.
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#328The only explanation for getting rid of dislike count that makes sense to me is to make big brands happy as their videos can't be made to look bad with a high dislike count and they can't be "dislike bombed" for things that may be unrelated to the content (eg the recent Activision-Blizzard scandals). Why? Because in every other way (and every way for the viewer), this makes Youtube worse. So it's a hell of a price to…
I think this hits almost bullseye for the reasons of this change, but I'd add the White House along with the brands who'd rather have their dislikes hidden. However, shadowbanning is for cowards. Would you also ban the people who only cast likes without any dislikes? Both groups have the same signal-to-noise ratio and can be equally harmful.
> Both groups have the same signal-to-noise ratio
I kinda doubt this, to be honest. In real life, I discount the opinions of people who only ever have negative things to say. Seems as though serial dislikers might deserve the same treatment.
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#329I turned off watch history and my suggested is a lot more accurate oddly enough. Probably because it's actually based on my subs now.
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#330I've only noticed the difference for a very specific set of technical help videos: how to open an X, how to fix a Y, how to pronounce Z. Now I just have to check the comments. The YouTube recommendation algorithm also broke globally about 3 weeks ago. Most people have not noticed it yet, but I haven't asked a single person about it who has said that their recommendations are normal. They've suddenly been full of crap…
Huh. My recs have been worse, but not to the degree you are talking about. Though similar to someone else I feel like recent views are over-impacting suggestions. Maybe I've just watched the right things to not get any of the conspiracy theory etc videos (though I'm getting flooded with 3rd party uploads of sports content)