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Post by rectang »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #757
daenz wrote: post #745

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I understand, I am asking why the gender roles being "built in" is exclusive to patriarchy. Suppose we replace patriarchy with matriarchy. Are there no built in assumptions about gender and everyone treats each other nicely?

I’m not familiar with matriarchal societies. I aspire to a society where gender expression is independent from societal roles.

> I aspire to a society where gender expression is independent from societal roles.

Brilliant. We're all in this together struggling to be generous to each other. There will always be tension between men and women and divergent gender roles will always exist, but things can be better than they are today.

There can be less of people of one gender or another demeaning others for physical characteristics, and more celebration of variety. I hope that more people can find it in themselves to accept when an olive branch is held out to them. This huge thread with hundreds of comments is a catalog of anguish showing how much potential there is for us to do better and be better — in daenz's formulation, being less of a "mean piece of shit" — for each other.

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Post by Gigachad »

scotty79 wrote: post #582
oynqr wrote: post #575

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That was OKCupid, why they actually published it is beyond me.

Why wouldn't they? They published a lot of very interesting anonymized stats back then. Would you rather not know?

I think from their perspective, publishing it was a mistake. A lot of companies publish anonymized user stats but usually they don't say or mean a whole lot. I'm pretty sure OkCupid didn't intend to get in the middle of a hot political topic and prove that the incel movement might have a point.

I imagine a lot of tech companies are holding on to some extremely volatile truths about society that they do not want becoming public.

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Post by thundergolfer »

eps wrote: post #779
thundergolfer wrote: post #622

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I’ve had this surgery 4 times, and the latest was 2019 where I used this “external device”. It’s using magnetism to manipulate the nail. You place it over the right spot on your leg and it makes ‘back and forth, back and forth’ type noises. Definitely no internal computers involved.

Can you explain where the "extra" bone matter comes from? The article said the bone gets cut and it wasn't clear if it get cut through and then two halves are shifted away from each other or the cut is more on an incision into the bone and the the bone just gets stretched by this device.

Broken is cut/chiseled in half. Then the nail is inserted into the bone (my femur) up near the top.

The "extra" bone comes from the body's natural healing mechanism. If you pull the bone apart slowly enough, the body forms a continuous connection of new bone in the gap. I did 1mm a day, I think.

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Post by hackerfromthefu »

aeze wrote: post #505
throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

I'm 5'5, pretty average (ie. not rich or particularly physically attractive), and I've consistently had attractive romantic partners my entire life. US-based, metropolitan area if that matters. I don't really have any advice, but I really don't think your height is limiting you. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely harder than if you were six inches taller, but it's not that bad. It's one factor of many that affects y…

I think also a lot of woman feel more comfortable or safer with a man around that height.

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Post by flyandscan88 »

psbp wrote: post #695
flyandscan88 wrote: post #679

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It's really quite simple a lot of men just want to be able to experiment sexually before they settle down. A lot of women do too. The difference is for women this is easily available in the dating world.. for men.. especially short men.. it's a distant fantasy. If these needs were met they would harbor no resentment towards women.

I honestly think a lot of men just don't like women, or at least don't respect them. Maybe it's because I was exposed to a lot of sexism in my CS undergrad (and even some jobs I've had), but it really does seem like some men think of women as inferior.

This is not really a response to what I said but I will agree sexism is a huge problem

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Post by dominotw »

moogly wrote: post #730
dominotw wrote: post #718

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wasn't there some research where women only rated top 20% men as attractive while men had a wider range. If that's actually true then dating apps are just magnifying whats already there and aren't the cause of the phenomenon.

Pretty sure that research was done by one of the said dating app companies. OKCupid?

ah maybe. good point.

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Post by twofornone »

pedrosorio wrote: post #739
twofornone wrote: post #656

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> As if women are a monolithic bloc conspiring against your genes. As if women are spherical horses acting out the simple laws of your evolutionary psychology This is a borderline strawman. Such conclusions are based on population level trends. And yes, just like any other sexually dimorphic species, there quite literally is a "conspiracy" against undesirable genes, though it isn't necessarily conscious or absolute.…

> and your immutable trait is objectively, defensibly negative, unlike racial/sexual discrimination ?

Large physical stature is objectively beneficial in most social situations, especially where intimidation is desirable or violence is likely. And there is no "Short Lives Matter" movement. Not to imply that there should be.

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Post by _jotn »

nosefrog wrote: post #13

As a 5'5" guy, no one ever calls me short, and when I joke about being short my friends tell me that they don't perceive me as short unless I'm joking about it, so I stopped haha.

As a 5'7" guy (which I've come to learn is statistically shorter in the U.S.), this was also the case for me. In my 30-something years on Earth, I never viewed myself as "short" at all. No one said I was short. I felt my height was average and had confidence in myself.

This all changed when my older brother-in-law voiced concerns about my height to my now-wife, saying I was too short for her.

Now, after 5 incredible years of being together, this mind virus has infected us, and we started seeing me as short, or otherwise "deficient". It's truly terrible. Thankfully I'm still incredibly confident, which is what made me attractive to my wife in the first place.

Sucks having family throw doubts into your wife's mind based on your height.

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Post by q1w2 »

at_a_remove wrote: post #495

I have mentioned this before, but I used to work at a dating service pre-Web popularity. People could state their preferences and also how important that preference is. I handled almost all aspects of the business, including the data entry of preferences. And I found out that women as a trend really really care about height . They cared about it when they wrote it down and the ones who said they didn't care? Ended up…

Any man with experience interacting with women has seen evidence of this time and time again.

I really don't understand people who deny that women have a very strong bias for height.

I also don't understand people who object to this surgery. There is nothing wrong with women who have an innate attraction for tall men, and there is nothing wrong with men who want to be attractive to those women.

That is just the reality of the world. Don't hate the players - hate the game.

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Post by q1w2 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #193
faeriechangling wrote: post #162

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I really hate the idea that people dealing with actual problems with objective evidence of being real problems should go to therapy at substantial cost to have somebody gaslight them into believing that their real problems don't matter. Sure somebody could have delusional views of how much their height matters, and such people could consider therapy, but I'd reckon most people glum about their height have a pretty ob…

> I really hate the idea that people dealing with actual problems with objective evidence of being real problems That's my point. If you're 25th percentile in height, you don't have an actual height problem. Treat the depression.

As studies have shown, 90% of women select the top 10% of men in online dating apps (with height being the #1 criteria) - so being in the bottom 25% is still an difficult circumstance.
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