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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by pedrosorio »

aortega wrote: post #612
michaelmrose wrote: post #603

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I went in this fully expecting you to be correct but drastically pessimistic in terms of hard numbers. Instead you were exactly wrong on the easiest point to check divorce rate. Short men tend to marry later on average but divorce at a substantially lower rate. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/link-between-mens-height-divo... The part about 200x the matches is both obviously pulled out of the air and grossly exaggerate…

>If you are 5'6" you are most apt to be most attractive to women who are 5'4" In which fantasy world that study was done? lets see. mmm 2012, the year Tinder was created, so it was basically in a different era, but let's continue. I see 'questionnaire based data' so it's self reported data! Of course you are going to report that you love 5'6' men. But you really don't. People say politically correct things, and then…

> Of course you are going to report that you love 5'6' men.

This study is based on data about actual pairings (parents of recently born children in the UK). Nothing to do with "reported preferences".

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by throwaway64554 »

4ad wrote: post #648
throwaway64554 wrote: post #617

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Throwaway for obvious reasons, but for me the compensation was (and still is to some extent) having a very large penis.

How do women know beforehand you have a very large penis?

They don't, and after nearly 14 years of relationship & marriage & kids, I don't think women really care. But it gives confidence, and confidence makes you attractive.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by mxkopy »

leereeves wrote: post #729
mxkopy wrote: post #728

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I mean... in my case, there wasn't really much of an argument. I guess it was "rich people are better than poor people," which, I do want to discredit, but also don't want to legitimize.

Let's discuss this thread. You aren't discussing in good faith when you reduce the complaints in the article (paraphrasing): "I want to be respected at work and not be mocked on social media" to (exact quote): "Men complaining about women should be ridiculed and will always earn my condescension".

The comment I replied to wasn't referring to complaints about work, they were referring to complaints the dating game.

There is nothing wrong with being condescending towards men who talk about "women" like they're a different species.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by mxkopy »

leereeves wrote: post #735
mxkopy wrote: post #731

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To be sure, I don't go looking for it. But I don't feel bad in making a bigot feel unwelcome.

If everyone responded to content they found unwelcome with hostility and insults, the site would be nothing but a shouting match. That's why there are tools that remove unwelcome content without adding more, like downvoting and flagging.

I can't downvote or flag, and I don't really care to moderate my language. So I'll use the tools I'm given I guess?

Sad to see so much focus on a discussion of moderation, rather than the sexism and bigotry I thought was so evident.

So tell me, what do you think? Is shortness really that much an impediment in the dating game? And what is the solution, if that's the case?

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Post by daenz »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #696
daenz wrote: post #448

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Doesn't this only make sense though if patriarchy is a priori defined by gender roles? It falls apart if any non-patriarchal system develops or prefers any gender roles. On what basis is it claimed that only a patriarchy has gender roles?

You are talking about “a patriarchy”, they are talking about “the patriarchy”. In other words this particular one we are living in with it’s built in assumed gender roles.

I understand, I am asking why the gender roles being "built in" is exclusive to patriarchy. Suppose we replace patriarchy with matriarchy. Are there no built in assumptions about gender and everyone treats each other nicely?

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by mxkopy »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #738
jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

It’s just like those “desired” characteristics such as supple body parts, the thigh gap, the wide hips but not too wide, swinging subtly but not flailing etc. Sounds not very politically correct? It’s just how it is and this is how most people see these things and desire. Yes, most. And it goes both ways. So, it’s really ingenuous to label all those comments with that incel-something buzzword. Something of a “not all…

On the other hand, this article read almost like satire. This man described almost nothing other than his shortness, as if it were the only reason he couldn't find success in dating. I refuse to believe that any one thing could hamper someone's ability to find a date like that; especially not shortness.

If a woman complained in the same way that men don't like her because her breasts aren't big, we'd be equally incredulous.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by psbp »

jseban wrote: post #727
psbp wrote: post #695

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I honestly think a lot of men just don't like women, or at least don't respect them. Maybe it's because I was exposed to a lot of sexism in my CS undergrad (and even some jobs I've had), but it really does seem like some men think of women as inferior.

Maybe because it's a male dominated field, you'd probably find the same bias against men in the field of child care for example.

I have a male friend who's a nurse. Definitely no where near the same level of sexism.

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Post by mxkopy »

leereeves wrote: post #723
0dayz wrote: post #613

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There are some good points here (stop listening to uptight young women), but you ruin it completely by essentially ending it with a less condescending version of "have sex incel", effectively making the entire comment a very lengthy filler until that point. But yes women aren't monotone, but that's not what these men are complaining about, it's the same complaint you may face as a female but instead it might be your…

The comments above are focusing on dating (and in particular, on dating sites), but that's not really what the article is about. The people in the article have complaints beyond dating: > colleagues constantly made remarks about his stature. “I was not treated with respect,” Scott told me. “At every single workplace I’ve been in, there've been several situations where people commented on my height to discredit me ent…

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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by ellen364 »

flyandscan88 wrote: post #679
psbp wrote: post #658

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A scary amount of men just don't think of women as people.

It's really quite simple a lot of men just want to be able to experiment sexually before they settle down. A lot of women do too. The difference is for women this is easily available in the dating world.. for men.. especially short men.. it's a distant fantasy. If these needs were met they would harbor no resentment towards women.

I’m not sure what to say to this. It’s a perspective that I find difficult to understand. The closest I’ve managed to get is “sometimes people struggle to cope with disappointment and not getting what they want”. The resulting resentment and anger at an entire group… that’s still alien to me. It’s sad to hear about, though, because it seems like the kind of feeling that tears apart a person inside.

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Post by mxkopy »

fleddr wrote: post #298
billllll wrote: post #238

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> Not a word is wasted on actual love. > > For the cynics that may think that I'm coping, I'm not. I'm 6"4 and in a loving long term relationship. As a 5'5" Asian man (statistically one of the lowest rate of matches in online dating), I find it personally demeaning that you feel like you need to be morally outraged for me, because trust me, I sure as shit don't need it. People are attracted to attractive people. That…

Calm down. Your reply is outrageously angry. If you had bothered to read my post with care, you'd perhaps noticed the nuance where I said height can be a soft unspoken preference, which indeed is widespread. I objected specifically against this preference becoming a rock hard criteria at some weird absolute point, say 6". That is a societal trend. It's culture, not biology. It's the hardening of a criteria that has l…

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