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Thoughtbot has 4 days of client work and 1 day of Investment Time https://thoughtbot.com/blog/investment-time

Having ran a consulting company, I wonder be interested in the economics of that.

You would need huge margins to cover the employment costs of the fifth day.

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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A lot of companies in the Netherlands will be open to that. My experience is also that it's usually OKish, if you make it part of the salary negotiations.

If you are open to that, let them pick one day a week off / fewer hours per day and it'll be even easier to convince folks

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post #108

At Automattic, you can do 4 days à 10 hours with 100% pay, 4 days à 8 hours with 80% pay, or 3 days à 8 hours with 60% pay. https://automattic.com/work-with-us/

I think 4 days at 10 hours is the worst possible arrangement for both employer and employee. I'm curios, isn't there anyone that would prefer a 5 day 6 hour work schedule instead?

For a lot of folks it's a time optimization problem. You have to spend X time getting ready and commuting to work that in most cases is unpaid. If that takes you an hour and a half all in (half an hour each way and half an hour getting ready) that's 1.5 hours a day or 7.5 hours a week. Nearly a full extra "work day" a week that you're uncompensated for.

At the high end of things you have folks in medical professions who not uncommonly work shifts like three 12 hour days and get paid as if they worked 40 hours.

At the low end you have things like hourly workers being forced into doing split shifts where they'll be asked to cover rush hours at a coffee shop or something (7-9am) and (11am - 1pm).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice! (To be clear, the 18 days are paid sick leave - after 18 days you get social security meaning the government pays for your sick leave and not Microsoft - you still get paid but it's capped at ±100K USD a year which is significantly less). 240 days of parental leave sounds amazing and very generous!

When I look at my tax statement nothing about what's mentioned by parent(gp) looks generous anymore. 50% of what my employer pays for me is conveniently put into the governments pockets rather than mine. Add 25% VAT, petrol that costs 2$ per litre, alcohol that's taxed through the roof, another 20% tax if you make more than 44KSEK/mo. I don't like the deal, to me it feels like a ripoff. But the government has conveni…

I don't think anyone expects the Nordic model to be free. Higher taxes in exchange for the associated benefits is what has been decided by the government, elected by the people. Of course there will be people against it, as well as people for it.

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post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think 4 days at 10 hours is the worst possible arrangement for both employer and employee. I'm curios, isn't there anyone that would prefer a 5 day 6 hour work schedule instead?

No, having an entire day off is sooo much nicer than working less per day. You can plan something for the entire day, like golf for me as example. Plus, if you have kids, working 6 hours likely means your off time is all spent with your kids. Having a Friday off means you get that free time purely for yourself. (Advice from someone who’s done both).

Yes and those 10 hours day also likely means you don’t see a lot of your kids either if you add commute.

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post #102

I have an open position with a 4 working days week for a full stack developer. The post is for junior but i need a medium/senior developer https://menelabs.com/Careers

> The male candidates must have finished the military service What's that about?

Military service is mandatory in some countries.

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I look at my tax statement nothing about what's mentioned by parent(gp) looks generous anymore. 50% of what my employer pays for me is conveniently put into the governments pockets rather than mine. Add 25% VAT, petrol that costs 2$ per litre, alcohol that's taxed through the roof, another 20% tax if you make more than 44KSEK/mo. I don't like the deal, to me it feels like a ripoff. But the government has conveni…

What country do you live in? In Sweden the Social Insurance is paid by the employer and that tax is in 2022 31,42%, of the gross 2.6% is for the Parental part.

Sweden, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm sorry about that.

Income tax: 30% (of income)

Employer tax: 31% (on top of income)

VAT: 25% (When i spend money)

Petrol, Alcohol: Ω%

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