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Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by misakwa »

My company is hiring for a 4-day workweek with an 8-hour workday. There are several fully remote openings. We have openings across various departments in the UK, US, Mexico, Brazil - https://www.signifyd.com/jobs/

Here is a post about our adoption of the 4-day workweek: https://www.signifyd.com/blog/signifyd-adopts-four-day-workw...

Disclaimer: I've worked here for a little over three years, and I believe this is one of the few companies with the best work/life balance I've EVER worked at.

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by philmcp »

For companies offering 4 day week jobs in Europe @ full salary, try: https://4dayweek.io/remote-jobs/europe

There are currently ~100 companies on the platform atm but I have a backlog of new companies to add and see more companies every day

And @HN, if your company is open to 4 days @ 80% salary, please get in touch :)

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by mzi »

lillecarl wrote: post #94
inglor wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice! (To be clear, the 18 days are paid sick leave - after 18 days you get social security meaning the government pays for your sick leave and not Microsoft - you still get paid but it's capped at ±100K USD a year which is significantly less). 240 days of parental leave sounds amazing and very generous!

When I look at my tax statement nothing about what's mentioned by parent(gp) looks generous anymore. 50% of what my employer pays for me is conveniently put into the governments pockets rather than mine. Add 25% VAT, petrol that costs 2$ per litre, alcohol that's taxed through the roof, another 20% tax if you make more than 44KSEK/mo. I don't like the deal, to me it feels like a ripoff. But the government has conveni…

What country do you live in? In Sweden the Social Insurance is paid by the employer and that tax is in 2022 31,42%, of the gross 2.6% is for the Parental part.

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by sokoloff »

microtonal wrote: post #8
drpancake wrote: post #4

I'm currently hiring for a 3-day workweek in case that's of interest: https://remoteok.com/remote-jobs/110323-remote-pt-full-stack... I had a job like this in the past and I loved the freedom of it the fact that I had plenty of energy left over to pursue other interests. So I wanted to recreate that for those that I hire. EDIT: my role is part-time so it's not a fair comparison.

This is a bit disingenuous. A 4-day work week usually means that a work week is reduced from 40 to 32 hours without a loss of compensation. Like previous reductions in work time, the theory is that while someone puts in fewer hours, it’s worth it because people can’t be fully productive for 40 hours. Your linked offer is a part-time position. It even states that you only get a cut of FTE and that there is the possibi…

While I agree that someone working a 4-day week is more than 80% as productive as someone working 25% more hours, I don’t agree that a “4 day workweek usually means…without loss of compensation”. In many cases, you can’t possibly know what would have happened (if an entire company is 4-day schedule) or a company transitions to a 4-day workweek instead of paying raises or while paying smaller raises.

I can’t think of any place where the expected schedule for one employee is 32 hours and another, otherwise identical, employee is 40 hours and those two are paid the same.

To me, a 4-day workweek just means you have scheduled/expected work on 4 days and none scheduled/expected on the other 3.

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by mhitza »

philmcp wrote: post #103

For companies offering 4 day week jobs in Europe @ full salary, try: https://4dayweek.io/remote-jobs/europe There are currently ~100 companies on the platform atm but I have a backlog of new companies to add and see more companies every day And @HN, if your company is open to 4 days @ 80% salary, please get in touch :)

Please do paginated listing, or save the state of the progress across the infinite list. Currently the back button starts you from scratch.

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by _gabe_ »

vinay_ys wrote: post #95

In most tech companies you can negotiate a lower number of days per week for lesser pay. In the last two decades I've been in the industry, I knew very junior people (early in their career) and very senior people doing 3-4 day workweek due to personal reasons in pretty much every company I worked in. It wasn't a big deal. Ability to take 3-6 month long unpaid breaks (sabbaticals), 4 weeks of PTOs, plus sick/carer lea…

Your point on talent/skill development rings so true with me! At my company they created this required training course for all SE1 and SE2 level positions. I'd be completely ok with this, except for the fact that the few workshops I've attended so far have been hastily put together by people with maybe a half year more experience than me. In addition to this, they expect me to dedicate 4 hours a week to these courses. In my opinion, a well developed workshop should have very condensed, focused information that's targeted at specific goals. Instead what I'm getting is an engineer who studied some AWS CDK library for a few months, than threw together a PowerPoint in a couple hours teaching me stuff that has no clearly defined outcome :pain:

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by mhitza »

egman_ekki wrote: post #50

At Automattic, you can do 4 days à 10 hours with 100% pay, 4 days à 8 hours with 80% pay, or 3 days à 8 hours with 60% pay. https://automattic.com/work-with-us/

I think 4 days at 10 hours is the worst possible arrangement for both employer and employee.

I'm curios, isn't there anyone that would prefer a 5 day 6 hour work schedule instead?

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by bluedevil2k »

mhitza wrote: post #108
egman_ekki wrote: post #50

At Automattic, you can do 4 days à 10 hours with 100% pay, 4 days à 8 hours with 80% pay, or 3 days à 8 hours with 60% pay. https://automattic.com/work-with-us/

I think 4 days at 10 hours is the worst possible arrangement for both employer and employee. I'm curios, isn't there anyone that would prefer a 5 day 6 hour work schedule instead?

No, having an entire day off is sooo much nicer than working less per day. You can plan something for the entire day, like golf for me as example. Plus, if you have kids, working 6 hours likely means your off time is all spent with your kids. Having a Friday off means you get that free time purely for yourself. (Advice from someone who’s done both).

Re: Ask HN: Companies hiring for a 4-day workweek?

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Post by bluedevil2k »

School-Cotton wrote: post #98
vkazanov wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At Bumble we have: - an unlimited PTO (you'd have to explain going beyond, say, 4 weeks, but otherwise working) - mandatory 2 payed weeks off (1 in December and 1 in Jun) - mostly remote using the "office-hub" model, only requiring presence when necessary - every 2 weeks there something we call a Focus Friday, when nobody can contact you and you are free to concentrate on things you want to work on. This covers all o…

“Unlimited PTO” is a scam. If it’s truly unlimited why not take 52 weeks off per year?

Cause you’ll get PIP’ed because your production will be non-existent.
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