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Could you please give more details so that frustrated youngsters like me can learn from your experience. What did you do to understand? And what are your conclusions?

First caveating with the statement: this is all generalization, and there are always exceptions. I'm speaking about stereotypical straight cis-gender relationships here. * what you want and what women want out of a relationship are in many ways very different * On a related note, what women find attractive is very different from what men find attractive. * Do not project your ideas of what you are attracted to onto w…

Thanks for sharing those reflections. Although I lack experience, I feel that all what you said is valuable and that reflecting/working on all those points would certainly improve building connections with women.

I am naturally a bit shy and reserved with women. I am also not very witty and humorous (except when drunk) and I have a historical record of nerdiness and introversion. Coupled with a short stature, it makes me lack in confidence (I got some rejections due to height in the past, but in no way I think height is a limiting factor. I believe being fit and confident can make wonders). I am in mid-twenties and I realised that I need to change this and I need to seriously work on it to live a normal life and find a partner.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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post #596

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Could you please give more details so that frustrated youngsters like me can learn from your experience. What did you do to understand? And what are your conclusions?

This is me spitballing. Take with salt. Men start off mostly worthless by default from a dating perspective, and gain attractiveness as they gain money and status. So, make money and gain prestige. Pretty-boys who peak in high school are the exception. Women peak in physical attractiveness to men as soon as they mature. Emotional maturity plays a role in attractiveness, and that generally improves over time, so peak…

This is one way, but I don't think it's the only way. I believe it is worth to explore other options and you get double benefits: the woman and any other attribute that helped you get the woman in the first place, being it confidence, humour, style, fitness, or any other thing. It's hard but I believe it's also good to give it a shot.

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Human trafficking doesn't become acceptable because somehow you believe the person is getting enough out of the deal. If you have to rebrand a trafficked individual an "economic refugee" you are working on a marketing degree not a conscience. There are billions of women out there and they can't all marry the 6'6" quarterback because there are only so many of them in the universe. I find that people who claim that the…

> There are billions of women out there Most of those are in other countries though, so you'd have to be willing to date internationally ("mail order brides"?) to meet them. And if you're American, a large number of foreigners may pretend to love you only to divorce you the moment they get a green card out of you.

I have never heard of anyone who got scammed for a green card not least of which because to get a green card good for 10 years you have to actually stay married at least 2 years. Seems like a very long con.

There are in your own locality as a young person just as many eligible females as their are males. Odds for the woman actually get progressively worse every year as the population of eligible males decreases faster because young men die more frequently and exit the effective marriage pool from her perspective in other ways whether it is because they have non intention of looking for permanent attachment or because they prefer young women regardless of their age.

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post #771

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First caveating with the statement: this is all generalization, and there are always exceptions. I'm speaking about stereotypical straight cis-gender relationships here. * what you want and what women want out of a relationship are in many ways very different * On a related note, what women find attractive is very different from what men find attractive. * Do not project your ideas of what you are attracted to onto w…

Thanks for sharing those reflections. Although I lack experience, I feel that all what you said is valuable and that reflecting/working on all those points would certainly improve building connections with women. I am naturally a bit shy and reserved with women. I am also not very witty and humorous (except when drunk) and I have a historical record of nerdiness and introversion. Coupled with a short stature, it make…

Also recognize that "finding a partner" is overrated, and don't be in a rush. The consequences of a bad choice in partners can potentially last a lifetime, so be picky as well when it comes to commitments. It can take months or even years to really know someone. Be less picky when it comes to flings. Speaking of which, just because you had sex with someone doesn't mean you are under any obligation to maintain monogamy or a relationship with them. In fact, don't go in under the assumption that a relationship will happen. Let it develop naturally.

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I hate, absolutely hate, that men have to worry so much about something they can't control. My best friend is below average height, and god bless him he never let that stop him from getting women, but I've seen him made fun of for it over and over from other "friends" for years. I call it out nowadays but didn't have the chutzpah to do it when we were in high school. It makes my blood boil so much that people will be…

I have a long standing rule that nothing is off limits to poke someone over - except immutable things. It’s the one bit of advice I’ll make sure to pass on.

The problem with your comment is that it classifies short stature as a bad negative trait. In my humble opinion, except in pathological cases, short stature is a normal thing. It should not even be a subject of mockery because being short is not bad or negative or tragic. If a person is healthy, functional, fit and he is 5'4, I don't see why that is viewed negatively in modern society and it is mocked for, like being a 5'4 is a handicape or something. It doesn't make any sense at all. They can run, jump, breed, fight, think, work, drink, fuck, drive, sing like another other taller person, and they can also even be better and excel. It's really an absurd thing. I never understood this and it has always baffled me and when someones makes a joke on short stature, I just don't get it why it's funny or why it's a valid mockery.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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True but we certainly don't tell anyone else in modern society to simply develop thick skin towards unnecessary abuse (minorities, lgbtq, etc)

I don't think you're wrong to point this out, but it's also obvious that nobody is discriminating against men for being short or women for being fat the way people discriminate and have discriminated against people for being members of those groups. I don't recall any red-lining against short men, separate water fountains or schools for short men, short-men not being allowed to get married, etc. Also, remind me the n…

Being fat is entirely different to being short. You can't willpower yourself out of being short.

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I understand, I am asking why the gender roles being "built in" is exclusive to patriarchy. Suppose we replace patriarchy with matriarchy. Are there no built in assumptions about gender and everyone treats each other nicely?

I’m not familiar with matriarchal societies. I aspire to a society where gender expression is independent from societal roles.

I believe it's an emergent phenomenon, so unless there is a plan to enforce that from emerging, you're going to be very unsatisfied even if "the patriarchy" is removed. But my question that I want to understand is, are "gender roles" by definition a patriarchal concept? If so, "the patriarchy" will always be a boogeyman to blame any time gender roles emerge. If not, then tying them to patriarchy is dishonest.

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> “Then I insert a rod — we call it a nail or a rod — that goes inside the bone. The rod is magnetic and it has gears. Then there’s an external device that communicates with the nail. And over time, little by little, it lengthens out the nail.” The lengthening happens gradually. “We usually say about a millimeter a day, until they get to their desired height.” The "external device that communicates with the nail" par…

I’ve had this surgery 4 times, and the latest was 2019 where I used this “external device”. It’s using magnetism to manipulate the nail. You place it over the right spot on your leg and it makes ‘back and forth, back and forth’ type noises. Definitely no internal computers involved.

Can you explain where the "extra" bone matter comes from?

The article said the bone gets cut and it wasn't clear if it get cut through and then two halves are shifted away from each other or the cut is more on an incision into the bone and the the bone just gets stretched by this device.

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