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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Again, I recognize the injustice you are facing. But surely you can recognize that there are important, meaningful differences with respect to racial discrimination? To put it differently: I object to your sense of proportion.

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> I don't know whats worse. Slavery and having a chance at contributing to the future gene pool with other slaves or plantation owner's wives. Or not having a chance at all at contributing to the gene pool not because of your skin color but because of your height or the amount in your bank account or not wearing clothes that fit or not deciphering the code she emits, etc... Actually when you are a slave you still have a voice.

I don't even know how to respond to this post but I don't think it's worth having no one respond to it. I'm going with direct.

Being a slave is worse. What in the actual fuck.

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Was the stigma against short men a thing before online dating where everyone had to post their heights publicly? I remember in my teens/early 20s - before dating apps were a thing - having several much shorter friends than me that were much more popular with the ladies.

I remember the same, I'm quite tall but I had a few short friends who were very popular. I have the impression that this is mostly a problem among younger people. The "only men over 6 inches" that people report seeing on Tinder feels almost like a meme that women are taking too seriously.

I suspect the same. Dating later in life, I think people realise that there are more important traits to seek in a partner. Got a friend who's under-employed, overweight, grey and around 50, and he gets dates because he's charismatic.

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are you confusing sexual preference with chattel slavery?

Sexual preference is largely shaped by societal influences as well. As I stated at the end there's historical pretext to this: fat women used to be preferred by men. Sexual preferences have changed over time. It's just as wrong as assuming that patriarchal society is some universal truth. Assuming that it is some innate quality that women are attracted to people taller than them is also flawed. What about homosexual…

Fat women in mediaeval times would be possibly thinner than an average Western woman now? Have you seen the fattest guy in the World from ~1900s picture he's large but he'd probably fit in an airline seat?

It's really hard to consider these things as "fatter" probably meant larger dowry (!), better survivability, healthier and by extension better for child-rearing. Whilst fatter in Western society now (anorexia, etc., aside) is almost certainly healthier, fitter for child-rearing and such.

Populations were lower and people moved around less, there was far less choice for mates.

But then choosing, rather than falling in love seems strange from where I am.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#534

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Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

But isn't it okay to make fun of Trump's penchance for the orange makeup appearance? So long as it is firmly in the realm of choice and not hiding a medical skin condition or other immutable characteristic, isn't it fair game? (To be clear, this question applies to certain kinds of public figures and not the shy kid in the schoolyard)

> So long as it is firmly in the realm of choice

I don't think most folks are against that.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#535

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Interesting, but we were both 19 in college.

Ok, so not necessarily the case there but maybe in some cases where those darn insecure men are lying about their height. Even if someone asks me my height I probably just say 6'4' and leave it at that.

to clarify, because that is what I was last measured at, don't know if I shrank, and anyway don't want conversations, oh people shrink with age about 1 inch so I am probably 6'3 seems too much for someone who asks what height you are which is just filler conversation.

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What's your moral/ethical basis for that? Sure, don't do this to others in your personal life (or strangers). It's arbitrary cruelty and simply abusive. But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong. If Putin did not want to be so judged, he wouldn't put out all those pictures of himself shirtless posing with horses and dolphins. I think…

I think it's just fundamentally wrong to abuse human beings, whoever they are, whatever they've done, for things that they can't control. Full stop. No exceptions. But more than that - if for example you abuse Lindsay Graham by calling him 'gay' - 'punching up' in your mind - then that does that say about what you think about other gay people that you think it's a criticism to call him gay?

plenty of legit things to say about lindsay graham without bringing any of that up indeed.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#537

I'm waiting for the articles in 20–30 years of women who sue their husbands for concealing their youthful limb-lengthening procedures and then passing on their short genes to their sons. When that happens, I will point and laugh.

Makeup lawsuits as retribution!

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> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#540

All these guys in here talking about the extreme discrimination against short men, where is this occurring? I say this as someone who is 5"7. I thought it was a meme on Tinder that incels blew out of proportion, but apparently it's bigger?

I'm guessing it's in the 18-25 age bracket. People are probably more realistic after 30?
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