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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by ravenstine » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:16 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #237

ravenstine wrote: post #213

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> There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive. It's another thing if it becomes more a cultural expectation than an actual attraction, and I think the reaction would be rather different if enough men decided not to date women who don't have at least D cups.

Well that's an interesting response. Surveyed women of median height prefer men of above-median height. But a D cup bra size is below the median for American adult females (which is a 34DD). I have no idea why popular imagination believes the bra size scale goes from A to D. Edited with context: The point is that men don't just prefer larger and larger breasts; there is a peak in preference for medium breast sizes[1]…

I only chose D because it's the one guys seem to be most familiar with. No clue why we seem to still think it stops at D. I guess I'm part of the problem there.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by johnny22 » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:16 PM UTC

tonguez wrote: post #229

chrisseaton wrote: post #189

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Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

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as a "libturd" like you say, I don't like to call trump fat or talk about how he was "gay for putin" or any of that. It's not cool at all. Got plenty of other actual criticism.

The only reason I'd even consider talking about trump and his apperance in a denigrating fashion is because he's so damn vain. Even so, i try to avoid it.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by recuter » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:18 PM UTC

thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

“Glory crowns the deeds of those who expose themselves to toils and dangers.” ― Alexander the Great

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by Crabber » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:18 PM UTC

ponder4722 wrote: post #185

Everything we are judged on - appearance, intelligence, earning potential - is a random dice roll of DNA that none of us control. Yet people take credit (pride or shame) for these traits. Pondering this has left me more detached and unimpressed with the human society game and competition... but what else is there? What am "I", if anything, beyond the randomly assigned DNA-based traits?

The problem is that you see yourself as a completely isolated individual rather than a continuation of your ancestor's genetics.

You don't have a "random dice roll of DNA", you have a very specific lineage of DNA passed to you by your parents.

You are the sum of your parents, and a reflection of all of your ancestors before you. I don't see anything irrational with taking pride (or shame) in the ancestral line that resulted in your genetics.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by aortega » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:19 PM UTC

klipt wrote: post #190

chrischen wrote: post #137

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I think the stats you are referencing about humans getting taller are from improvements in childhood nutrition. I don't think genetically we've been selecting for taller people, as that is harder to conclude (plus, even if woman select for taller men, men do not necessarily select for taller woman, and woman are part of this too let's not forget). > Women usually marry the millionaire, but have sex with the pool boy.…

> plus, even if woman select for taller men, men do not necessarily select for taller woman, and woman are part of this too let's not forget Men's preferences only matter in a monogamous society, where less attractive women are expected to settle down with less attractive men who will financially support their kids. But in modern welfare states, less attractive women can still sleep with very attractive men (whom the…

>Which means the rich but unattractive men are, through taxes, paying for the children of the attractive men

I con't understand how so few people realize this. The modern 'incel crisis' is fueled by online dating and government subsidies. It's the perfect combination to ensure reproduction of only the top few percent of men.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by KerrAvon » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:20 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #189

thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

What's your moral/ethical basis for that? Sure, don't do this to others in your personal life (or strangers). It's arbitrary cruelty and simply abusive.

But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong. If Putin did not want to be so judged, he wouldn't put out all those pictures of himself shirtless posing with horses and dolphins. I think he in particular is fair game.

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Post by msrenee » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:22 PM UTC

aortega wrote: post #126

chrischen wrote: post #116

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Lucky for short people, height is a lot less of a factor in modern society. Wealth is a much bigger factor. And what's the best path to wealth? Software . Even more lucky for them, software and internet doesn't care about height.

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Are you basing your understanding of human sexuality and genetics off a bad movie trope? Or do you think all women are Anna Nicole Smith?

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Post by aaaaaaaaaaab » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:22 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #237

ravenstine wrote: post #213

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> There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive. It's another thing if it becomes more a cultural expectation than an actual attraction, and I think the reaction would be rather different if enough men decided not to date women who don't have at least D cups.

Well that's an interesting response. Surveyed women of median height prefer men of above-median height. But a D cup bra size is below the median for American adult females (which is a 34DD). I have no idea why popular imagination believes the bra size scale goes from A to D. Edited with context: The point is that men don't just prefer larger and larger breasts; there is a peak in preference for medium breast sizes[1]…

I think it’s not the absolute cup size that matters for men, if you know what I mean.

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Post by KerrAvon » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:23 PM UTC

johnny22 wrote: post #242

tonguez wrote: post #229

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as a "libturd" like you say, I don't like to call trump fat or talk about how he was "gay for putin" or any of that. It's not cool at all. Got plenty of other actual criticism. The only reason I'd even consider talking about trump and his apperance in a denigrating fashion is because he's so damn vain. Even so, i try to avoid it.

But we can talk about objective facts: Trump is a tiny, short-fingered vulgarian; a mentally-ill real estate huckster. Nothing shameful about mental illness, but he should get treatment. Can't help him with the fingers, though.

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Post by chrisseaton » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:24 PM UTC

KerrAvon wrote: post #246

chrisseaton wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

What's your moral/ethical basis for that? Sure, don't do this to others in your personal life (or strangers). It's arbitrary cruelty and simply abusive. But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong. If Putin did not want to be so judged, he wouldn't put out all those pictures of himself shirtless posing with horses and dolphins. I think…

I think it's just fundamentally wrong to abuse human beings, whoever they are, whatever they've done, for things that they can't control. Full stop. No exceptions.

But more than that - if for example you abuse Lindsay Graham by calling him 'gay' - 'punching up' in your mind - then that does that say about what you think about other gay people that you think it's a criticism to call him gay?