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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by immigrantheart » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:32 PM UTC

Just don't go for girls who want tall guys? It is not that hard?

People like what they like. You can't force girls to like short men or ugly men or poor men or here.

I'm speaking as 5'3" Asian man living in Western country where the majority are taller than me.

Hear me out, in my country there's this dude who's tall, relatively good looking. Married someone who's not only short, but lack of 4 limbs, and not good looking (actually people said she's ugly). They are living happily.

There's also a tall white girl who met this dude who's brown skinned, ugly, short, and only work as a poor fisherman. They got married, to the point that the white girl converted into his religion (Islam). Of course, the dude got mocked like crazy. They are living happily.

There are many fish in the sea. There are many examples of girls who date/marry shorter/uglier guys and not just for money. There are also things you can work on to compensate your height.

Or just don't think about height at all. You do you. Eventually you'll find someone with your charisma.

If you are worried about your height that much, even me as a man find it cringy and pathetic.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by ensan » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:33 PM UTC

aortega wrote: post #99

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

"Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future."

You're being overly dramatic and don't have any to support your claim. It is not really necessary to date dozens of women before getting married.

Dating many women in the first place is only the norm in a few western countries.

Also, I believe the dating apps are mostly used for casual sex, so the statistics there are not really relevant in the end.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by rsynnott » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:33 PM UTC

recuter wrote: post #243

thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

“Glory crowns the deeds of those who expose themselves to toils and dangers.” ― Alexander the Great

Well, yes, but he was short, so who cares what he says? (/s, obviously)

Incidentally, A. T. Great is maybe evidence that this is a modern fixation, not something that's always been with us. It's fairly clear that he was unusually short, but there's little indication that anyone thought much of it; by contrast, the idea that Napoleon (who wasn't even short!) was short was a propaganda point for the UK.

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Post by astrange » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:34 PM UTC

bigfudge wrote: post #135

aortega wrote: post #126

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Is that really why humans are getting taller? Most increase in height has happened in the last 70 years and linked to increases in nutrition. Selective pressure seems implausible as an explanation for any measurable increases in height in historical time.

The selective pressure is actually for shorter people as all the taller people were killed in WW1.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by ajwfew » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:34 PM UTC

immigrantheart wrote: post #271

Just don't go for girls who want tall guys? It is not that hard? People like what they like. You can't force girls to like short men or ugly men or poor men or here. I'm speaking as 5'3" Asian man living in Western country where the majority are taller than me. Hear me out, in my country there's this dude who's tall, relatively good looking. Married someone who's not only short, but lack of 4 limbs, and not good look…

These are outliers, and no, not everyone "finds someone" with their charisma. Life is a brutal game and good on these men for trying to find advantages to allow them to play more fairly.

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Post by bscheckerhere » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:36 PM UTC

omginternets wrote: post #160

bscheckerhere wrote: post #154

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Again, I recognize the injustice you are facing. But surely you can recognize that there are important, meaningful differences with respect to racial discrimination? To put it differently: I object to your sense of proportion.

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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by thangalin » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:36 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #262

thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

> Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations I feel like I need to point out that nobody ever genocided millions of short guys based on their height. :-/

s/Jew/woman; s/Jew/black man; s/Jew/elderly; etc.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by rayiner » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:38 PM UTC

throwaway515 wrote: post #168

aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

Move to India! You’ll be average height and being white will be a big plus.

Also, I'll observe that the median Hispanic man in America is a hair under 5' 7" (66.7"), yet Hispanic couples account for almost a quarter of births in America. Just a data point!

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Post by astrange » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:40 PM UTC

thoms_a wrote: post #113

SnowHill9902 wrote: post #83

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You are overestimating and being too kind on “modernity”. Even if today short stature is not a disadvantage (and that’s a big if), it can perfectly well be in one month, after a war or pandemic breaks out, or in a generation when your children will be shorter because of current preferences.

I can think of another genetic factor that has a much, much greater impact on survival. And it is absolutely taboo to mention the heritability or genetic basis of this trait. Take solace in the fact that if you find yourself on HN, you're likely at least a few SD above the mean in this trait, so you don't have much to worry about. Furthermore, you can use this trait to understand the fickle nature of sexual attractio…

Yes, I’ve noticed you can’t meet a rationalist without them trying to recruit you to scientific racism in the first 10 minutes. Mostly because they don’t know what “heritable” means and think all evidence should be believed just because it’s passed in front of their eyes and someone called it evidence.

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Post by ratww » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:42 PM UTC

LAC-Tech wrote: post #210

Was the stigma against short men a thing before online dating where everyone had to post their heights publicly? I remember in my teens/early 20s - before dating apps were a thing - having several much shorter friends than me that were much more popular with the ladies.

I remember the same, I'm quite tall but I had a few short friends who were very popular.

I have the impression that this is mostly a problem among younger people. The "only men over 6 inches" that people report seeing on Tinder feels almost like a meme that women are taking too seriously.