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Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Also Oracle OCI has OKE, which is Oracle Kubernetes Engine. It works nicely and the quality of service has been very good in my experience over the past four years. Disclaimer: I currently work at Oracle.

Can you find anyone who doesn't work at Oracle that can back up this bold assertion?

Why is it a bold assertion? Looks like the Oracle folks just need to submit a PR to the CAPI docs to include a link to their provider which is available now.

https://github.com/oracle/cluster-api-provider-oci

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Hetzner is shockingly cheaper than vultr now. Also Contabo is very cheap.

I was trying to price up something between hetzner and AWS and as a starting place AWS ends up cheaper until you get to a certain point then hetzner ends up cheaper. Basically wanted 3 servers. One for load balancer and then 2 web servers so I can pop them in and out. But with hetzner it’s minimum like $30/m per server when I only need 2c/2g I get 3 servers at AWS for $32.

not working for them, but a user/fan.

Did you check out hetzner "cloud"? 2c/2g seems to be roughly 5$/Month, x3 would be 15$

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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I think it is really worth being aware of Hetzner's Dedicated server offerings. What you get isn't that dissimilar to what a cloud provider would offer, but you get about an order of magnitude more compute resources for the same price. Plus you get better disk access speed (NVMe) than something like an AWS EBS-backed instance. You can also order new instances within a matter of minutes. You don't have to use them, bu…

Second this. I moved from GCP compute to a Hetzner dedicated physical server with 3-4x raw compute power at 0.5x the cost. And of course it runs FreeBSD.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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This sounds like a nifty solution for compute, but I suppose for data storage and such you would want a separate managed service? Or does this hook into that for various providers too?

Storage is already abstracted via Kubernetes with persistent volume claims and CSI (container storage interface) You can specify the default storage class to use the provider's CSI driver. The PVC is then specified and consumed the same way in a portable manner across providers.

With "storage" I'm thinking something more powerful beyond plain files, e.g. relational databases.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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I was trying to price up something between hetzner and AWS and as a starting place AWS ends up cheaper until you get to a certain point then hetzner ends up cheaper. Basically wanted 3 servers. One for load balancer and then 2 web servers so I can pop them in and out. But with hetzner it’s minimum like $30/m per server when I only need 2c/2g I get 3 servers at AWS for $32.

not working for them, but a user/fan. Did you check out hetzner "cloud"? 2c/2g seems to be roughly 5$/Month, x3 would be 15$

Damn I’m dumb. I wasn’t looking at the cloud section. Your right. Thank you!

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Storage is already abstracted via Kubernetes with persistent volume claims and CSI (container storage interface) You can specify the default storage class to use the provider's CSI driver. The PVC is then specified and consumed the same way in a portable manner across providers.

With "storage" I'm thinking something more powerful beyond plain files, e.g. relational databases.

We run almost all of our production databases on k8s - postgres, clickhouse, cockroachdb and more. Many others do too. K8s itself already comes with a db of sorts - etcd so it’s not a non-standard usecase.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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I am currently playing with Fly.io, and it is very simple to use. If you can dockerize your application, you can run it on Fly. Obviously, it is not comparable to AWS etc., but it is totally fine for single apps. You can run multiple apps too, and they can communicate using Fly'a private network and private DNS, but I haven't tried it yet.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Storage is already abstracted via Kubernetes with persistent volume claims and CSI (container storage interface) You can specify the default storage class to use the provider's CSI driver. The PVC is then specified and consumed the same way in a portable manner across providers.

With "storage" I'm thinking something more powerful beyond plain files, e.g. relational databases.

Block storage? When you create your persistent volume claim, you can specify an accessMode. "readWriteOnce" will target block storage of the storageClass, "readWriteMany" will use file.

You can also choose something specific like a mounted hostVolume which is not provider specifc.

Cutting edge stuff like NVMe-oF is even possible, the CSI ecosystem is very active. https://github.com/spdk/spdk-csi

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Storage is already abstracted via Kubernetes with persistent volume claims and CSI (container storage interface) You can specify the default storage class to use the provider's CSI driver. The PVC is then specified and consumed the same way in a portable manner across providers.

With "storage" I'm thinking something more powerful beyond plain files, e.g. relational databases.

planetscale (if I need rdbms) or firestore or dynamodb (if I need just document). I checked latency of planetscale and dynamodb from frankfurt,paris,singapore from DO/linode/scaleway to db in same region; these are low latency (mostly single digit).

For single server, I'd just use sqlite.

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