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Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

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Cloudflare. Between Pages, Speed, Access, Workers, durable objects, KV store, R2, Images, etc they’re maybe a small handful of product releases away from being able to replace the providers you mentioned for many users and applications. Plus I’d wager that many applications can be built 100% on Cloudflare today (and are). Benefits? - Pricing. Compare pricing on Workers to functions across those platforms as one examp…

Also: really nice employees that also post here from time to time.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

#54
Alibaba Cloud.

Although, my dealings with them have been entirely negative. Their strategy is to make a clone of every service AWS has, except the billing system which hides a lot of majorly expensive pitfalls.

Also, if you choose one of their mainland hosted zones, trying to get your data out is even more expensive than the other zones.

So in this case, "knowing more about" is really "tread carefully".

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

#55
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Oracle Cloud - good alternative for bandwidth heavy products (used by Zoom) Heroku - For a more "abstracted" cloud that just works Vultr/DigitalOcean - Cheap VMs, additionaly some services like managed DB and K8s Hetzner/OVH - Cheap dedicated hosts Netlify/Cloudflare Pages/etc - for static websites + functions/3rd party services for dynamic stuff

> Oracle Cloud - good alternative for bandwidth heavy products (used by Zoom) please don't. I have nothing but the worst experiences with Oracle Cloud. Granted, I was always a little biased against Oracle as a company; but I have a friend working on OCI and assumed that since what I needed was really basic it would be fine. It really wasn't, it was awful, confusing and opaquely and egregiously expensive.

> It really wasn't, it was awful, confusing and opaquely and egregiously expensive.

That is true, but it is also very much an understatement of just how miserable every step of the OC experience is.

I was once forced by a customer to endure the torture that is OC, and the only thing that saved me was when Oracle's terrible management software just deleted our entire account and deployment one weekend. Gone without a trace, could not even log in anymore. Luckily, that was enough to persuade the client to move to Azure.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

#56

Oracle Cloud - good alternative for bandwidth heavy products (used by Zoom) Heroku - For a more "abstracted" cloud that just works Vultr/DigitalOcean - Cheap VMs, additionaly some services like managed DB and K8s Hetzner/OVH - Cheap dedicated hosts Netlify/Cloudflare Pages/etc - for static websites + functions/3rd party services for dynamic stuff

Hetzner is shockingly cheaper than vultr now. Also Contabo is very cheap.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

#57
I'll toss out another vote for Fly.io. They make it super easy to deploy containers. No K8s, no leaky abstraction to an underlying traditional compute service.

You get internal networking out of the box with per-app-region internal DNS entries, and with their CLI tool it's one command to SSH into your container or connect your laptop to the internal network.

As a nice bonus, their pricing is very competitive. You pay about as much as you would for the same size Linode or droplet (minimum is 256 MB RAM for $1.94/mo), which is a welcome relief vs other providers. Great free plan, too - 3 apps at 256MB RAM running 24/7 in perpetuity.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

#58
I think it is really worth being aware of Hetzner's Dedicated server offerings. What you get isn't that dissimilar to what a cloud provider would offer, but you get about an order of magnitude more compute resources for the same price.

Plus you get better disk access speed (NVMe) than something like an AWS EBS-backed instance. You can also order new instances within a matter of minutes.

You don't have to use them, but being aware of what is available there would be a really good idea. I think some workloads could easily be deployed there at a fraction of the cost of a cloud provider.

Re: Ask HN: Beyond AWS/Azure/GCP, what cloud providers should I know more about?

#60

Cloudflare. Between Pages, Speed, Access, Workers, durable objects, KV store, R2, Images, etc they’re maybe a small handful of product releases away from being able to replace the providers you mentioned for many users and applications. Plus I’d wager that many applications can be built 100% on Cloudflare today (and are). Benefits? - Pricing. Compare pricing on Workers to functions across those platforms as one examp…

I only like Clouflare as a security company.
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