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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #145
daenz wrote: post #108

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Yep. Nobody wants to talk about it, but the amount of abuse that is directed from otherwise-socially-conscious women towards short men is pretty disgusting. It's extremely common for groups of women to laugh at and deride short men, both online and publicly in real life. It's eye-opening. (And before you ask, no I am not short, I've just witnessed the abuse first hand).

I'm 5'5" and 120 lbs and that hasn't been my experience. My past promiscuity is the butt of jokes far more often than my stature.

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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by aortega »

peyton wrote: post #387
darkmarmot wrote: post #355

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So awkward. I'm just over 6'2" -- and at a recent family reunion had to deal with everyone saying I must be at _least_ 6'4". Because I was much taller than the other 6' guys there... and if I dispute it too vociferously, it's almost an attack on all the guys around me who are lying about their height. It seems there's a 2 or 3 inch bump across the board.

Yeah the bump breaks down around 6’3”.

That's what you get for using inexact imperial units.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by skeptikal »

darkmarmot wrote: post #355
throw__away7391 wrote: post #194

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I'm a tad over 6' but girls are so used to guys lying about their hight that they usually say I'm 6'2". On multiple occasions I've had my date insist over my objection that I must be taller than that. It's not a stretch for me to imagine that widespread lying by men about their hight has actually collectively made the problem worse for men, e.g. women insisting on 6 feet because they've dating 5'10" guys claiming to…

So awkward. I'm just over 6'2" -- and at a recent family reunion had to deal with everyone saying I must be at _least_ 6'4". Because I was much taller than the other 6' guys there... and if I dispute it too vociferously, it's almost an attack on all the guys around me who are lying about their height. It seems there's a 2 or 3 inch bump across the board.

Ya, that happened to me once (Im almost 6’2’’). A guy who couldn't have been 5 10 was insisting he was 6 and that I was taller than stated. What was weird was that we were alone. He was only lying to himself.

And you know what, he was a bit weird looking. He had bad posture. But he was a good guy. A smart, hard working guy with a big heart.

This height thing is annoying. Id gladly trade inches of height in exchange for other inner character traits (courage, perseverance, conscientiousness). Intelligence I have to spare, but what good is it without character?

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by qiskit »

pmdulaney wrote: post #3

Gattaca.

Surprised this isn't the top comment. How long before gene therapy/selection removes the need for de-gene-erates to get these procedures?

Sends chills down my spine thinking about ethan hawke's character cracking his leg bones to increase his height. Insane.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by aortega »

Darmody wrote: post #207
throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

Plenty of women don't care about that. Just stop using apps like Tinder, they attract the worst of the worst, by what I see, especially in the US. Even if you were above 6', you wouldn't want to date a woman obsessed with height. In my group of friends, the shorter ones (around 1,73m) are the most successful ones.

>Plenty of women don't care about that.

Yes, and plenty of men likes obese women over 50 year old. But its a relatively low percentage.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

fleddr wrote: post #134

"a 2006 study on online dating found that a man who is 5'6'' needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6' tall and only makes $62,500 a year." I guess I appreciate the brutal honesty. Wealth and height. And not to forget social status, as one woman in the linked article explained how she broke up with a short guy because of what others (might) think of it. Not a word is wasted on a…

>I've never met or talked to a man that finds fake boobs

Hang on homie. There are some boob jobs that are AMAZING. Not the California two oranges taped to a rake style, but that’s not everything out there.

Off the top of my head (with only the tiniest bit of shame because she is drop dead gorgeous), Kirara Asuka has an amazing/best boob job. And if you can look at her and not find her attractive, you’re probably lying almost certainly lying.

And while talking about plastic surgery and unwelcome societal preferences, look up the percentage of Asian people that get blepharoplasty in some form. It’s nuts. So imagine your eye lids being added to the list of things to fret over.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by thaumasiotes »

omginternets wrote: post #143
PretzelPirate wrote: post #109

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I think you may have misunderstood the OP and didn’t align with the HN rules of assuming the best meaning. They didn’t equate racism and discrimination based on height, they said that there’s no difference in someone discriminating based on that - meaning discriminating based on something that wasn’t a choice and cannot reasonably be changed.

Respectfully, your accusation does not hold. It doesn't hold because: 1. I pointed out this distinction in my initial comment, and the OP has not conceded the point that "x and y are members of set S" is different from "there are no differences beetween x and y". 2. This in turn negates the "best meaning" you seem to be assuming. And the first point bears repeating. Even if height discrimination and racism are both i…

>>> You seem to be defending the thesis in the original comment

> Even if height discrimination and racism are both instances of prejudice based on immutable characteristics, there are very important differences between them.

I meant what I said. You claimed that one of the differences between heightism and racism is that "The shortness of men (barring outright dwarfism) has never been the object of widespread theories about their fundamental inferiority". That claim is blatantly false. Why did you make it?

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Post by qiskit »

onion2k wrote: post #64
sonicggg wrote: post #51

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You're comparing apples to oranges. Not trying to guess your height, but it seems you got personally attacked by the fact that society in general looks down on short guys. Different from skin colour, there's an evolutionary trait to height preference. Studies have shown that heterosexual women prefer partners taller than them. It's understandable this subconscious bias. And what seems like discrimination, it's just a…

We can't, even shouldn't, shut down our instincts due to politically correctness. Of course we should. Relying on reasons that would have been acceptable to a caveman 10,000 years ago is no basis for modern society. We've beaten evolution. Modern science, medicine, and society means evolutionary pressures can be ignored - women with bigger breasts and hips aren't any more likely to have successful offspring now becau…

> We've beaten evolution.

It's an impossibility. Evolution is by definition something we can't escape.

> Modern science, medicine, and society means evolutionary pressures can be ignored

No. It means evolutionary pressure will increase and accelerate. Modern science will allow couples to genetically alter/select for best embryos. It will be a genetic arms race to produce the taller, faster, smarter, healthier, etc children.

The advances of modern science will do the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Take down syndrome. Genetic screening has all but eliminated the down syndrome trait from much of the advanced world.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by daenz »

rectang wrote: post #390
daenz wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Nobody wants to talk about it, but the amount of abuse that is directed from otherwise-socially-conscious women towards short men is pretty disgusting. It's extremely common for groups of women to laugh at and deride short men, both online and publicly in real life. It's eye-opening. (And before you ask, no I am not short, I've just witnessed the abuse first hand).

We'd be in a better place if we started from the assumption that everybody is prejudiced, it takes work for any of us to overcome it, and the work is never complete. I've seen hypocrisy and cruelty from people of all backgrounds. But anecdotally, among the "socially conscious women" I've spent time around, this, which is one of three top comments on the article, is a common sentiment: > This is a reminder that the pa…

Why is women demeaning men for being short a symptom of the patriarchy?

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

Ancalagon wrote: post #202

I hate, absolutely hate, that men have to worry so much about something they can't control. My best friend is below average height, and god bless him he never let that stop him from getting women, but I've seen him made fun of for it over and over from other "friends" for years. I call it out nowadays but didn't have the chutzpah to do it when we were in high school. It makes my blood boil so much that people will be…

I have a long standing rule that nothing is off limits to poke someone over - except immutable things.

It’s the one bit of advice I’ll make sure to pass on.

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