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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by sonicggg » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

You're comparing apples to oranges. Not trying to guess your height, but it seems you got personally attacked by the fact that society in general looks down on short guys.

Different from skin colour, there's an evolutionary trait to height preference. Studies have shown that heterosexual women prefer partners taller than them. It's understandable this subconscious bias. And what seems like discrimination, it's just a natural product.

Similarly, men have always shown preference to larger breasts and hips, signs of fertility. We can't, even shouldn't, shut down our instincts due to politically correctness.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by dubswithus » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:21 PM UTC

uncomputation wrote: post #20

I find these subtle, yet extremely intense neuroses we see so often in Western cultures fascinating. The patient remarks on one TikTok video in particular that seemingly tormented him. I had never once thought a few inches height difference in a couple was odd or even worth remarking upon and yet there seems to be this vast, largely untapped sensitivity in men being short. Similar things for sexual activity (incels)…

Plastic surgery is quite common in Iran too.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by omginternets » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:21 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people.

I get where you're coming from -- criticizing people for what they are, rather than for what they do, is exceedingly unfair -- but I can think of at least three important differences, chief among which are:

1. The shortness of men (barring outright dwarfism) has never been the object of widespread theories about their fundamental inferiority, nor have such theories been enshrined into widespread law.

2. Social institutions have never explicitly conspired to marginalize short men.

3. Redlining, lynching, the selling of persons into slavery, ghettos, etc. have no equivalent in the realm of height.

And to be frank, it's rather shocking that you would suggest otherwise. I don't doubt that you've been treated unfairly, and you are perfectly entitled to complain about it, but that doesn't require you to twist reality.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by SnowHill9902 » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:22 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

I agree that it shouldn’t be used in a derogatory manner, but it’s a fact that people have preferences in who they prefer to breed with. In fact that’s the reason why we are what we are in a positive way. You are being disingenuous or have genetic maladaptive screening of partners if you think otherwise and that maladaptation is naturally evolved away.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by thaumasiotes » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:23 PM UTC

omginternets wrote: post #53

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. I get where you're coming from -- criticizing people for what they are, rather than for what they do, is exceedingly unfair -- but I can think of at least three important differences, chief among which are: 1. The shortness of men (barring outright dwarfism) has never bee…

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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by rootusrootus » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

This is the kind of surgery I might expect someone who is closer to 5 feet might use to get nearer to normal range. I'm pretty much average myself (71 inches) and I wouldn't look at a 67 inch tall guy and think "wow he's short." He's still taller than the vast majority of women. I think the money would be better spent on therapy if it really is that depressing to be 5'7".

Also, anybody making short jokes is a jerk and should be shamed. Anyone calling 5'7" short has some problems of their own to sort out.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by karaterobot » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

> There are no concrete numbers on how many people are having this procedure (though a 2020 BBC report found that hundreds of men have it every year)

So, by "hundreds" they mean definitely less than a thousand people. Presumably much less, or else they'd have "almost a thousand". But in any case, they really have no idea how many people are undergoing this surgery, or how much it has changed over time, because nobody has any hard numbers. Not a strong basis for a headline.

I am not trying to trivialize the anxiety or social stigma short men face, but the phrase but "becoming more popular" in this headline is such a weak, almsost meaningless statement that I wish they would have crafted a less click-baity headline.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by Jtsummers » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

Beaver117 wrote: post #50

khazhoux wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I'm same height as guy in the article and no one has ever commented on my height at work (or, pretty much anywhere else). I think Scott had lots of other issues going on, but blames his height. Of course I would have liked to have been 6' and looked more like a "commanding leader" when I march into a room. Maybe it would have given me a career boost... but I could also get that from hitting the gym and bulki…

>I could also get that from hitting the gym and bulking up, or buying better-fitted clothes, or (heaven forbid) put more effort into my job! And what if you have done all that and are still mocked for your height?

Find a better community. If people are mocking you (especially for things outside your control, but also generally), you oughtn't be around them. I've left social groups and "friends" behind for lesser things than mocking people over height.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by nathias » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

are you confusing sexual preference with chattel slavery?

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by rootusrootus » Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #10

jjeaff wrote: post #7

Seems like such an extreme surgery for a few inches. I would think that a treatment as extreme as this should require at least attempted psychiatric treatment before going to full on broken femurs. But maybe an inch can make much more difference than I think. I am literally one inch taller than this guy and I cannot ever in my life remember someone calling me short or disparaging me for my height. I do agree that bei…

I have to get a few letters of sanity to get genital surgery. It'll probably turn out the same with stuff like this.

I know it's not what you're referring to, but I just have to say that the first doctor to figure out a really plausible way to add a couple inches of penis length without serious side effects is going to be very wealthy.