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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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vetinari wrote: post #292
bfz wrote: post #18

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Even where the ports are available, 25 Gbit from a single address is well into the realms of looking like attack traffic in a wide variety of scenarios. Past even 500 Mbit I'm way more interested in latency considerations than raw bandwidth, and practical matters like how to use that bandwidth from my laptop (good luck doing 500 mbit wireless reliably, never mind 25 Gbit!)

> good luck doing 500 mbit wireless reliably Most routers and wifi adapters are crap. Buyers do rarely go beyond "wifi 5" or "wifi 6", and do not realize that there's much more. The older Apple Macbook Pros (pre-2019) came with 3x3 MIMO ac adapters. If you had capable AP on the other side, you could reliably do gigabit with them. The newer ones have only 2x2 MIMO, just like the rest of the laptop market, so you will…

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by ggpsv »

rayiner wrote: post #381
ggpsv wrote: post #361

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There is not as it does not refer to a geographical designation. I wouldn't say it is a euphemism, but closer to what people actually refer to when they misuse the term "third-world". The closest geographical designation was the Brandt line drawn in the 80s showing a north and south divide in terms of global wealth distribution [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South#...

Third world is inaccurate, but what’s wrong with “developing world.” Also: did I call it about China and Australia or did I call it?

Like I mentioned in my top-most comment, "developing nation" is what people typically refer to. As to your comment, I was pointing out that "global south" is not a euphemism for "developing nation". I'd say it is the other way around and in a misguided way. This is because the global south/north designation intentionally distances itself from terminology such as "developing nation".

I understand if this comes across as pedantry but the global north and south terminology does a better job at leveling the playing field when talking about wealth and progress disparities.

As per your other question, Australia is part of the global north, China is part of the global south in the global north and south groupings.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #280
hnlmorg wrote: post #216

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A lot of it is down to those countries being early adopters of telecom infrastructure. It meant when a lot of other countries were wiring up internet for the first time, they weren’t faced with the prospect of having to piggyback existing and aged infrastructure. eg in some cases they could leapfrog copper almost entirely and jump straight to fibre.

This one and the plain difference in the size. It is easier to upgrade everything in some Blatic states than in some US cities.

Yeam, but there is also masive difference in wealth. And then you can't use size as enxcuse in a comparison with India

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #247
larusso wrote: post #186

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As a German I weep and cry. 25Gbit/s seems so so far off. And I live in a major city. I only get 150Mbit VDSL at the moment. I have no cable connection so one of these to get the theoretical 1Gbit/s download is out of the question.

The maximum speed available at my London address is 35 mbps download and 5.5 mbps upload. It hasn't changed in the seven years I've been living here. The best mobile connection I get is two bars of 3G unless it rains.

My previous address was stuck at 8 mbps dowload and 0.25 mbps upload and it will not be upgraded anytime soon because every corner of that street is listed / protected. I literally moved just because of that. Not I won't rent anything without fiber.

We are still creating newbuilds in cities without fiber. In other news, someone fucked up construction and left an entire complex of brand new apartment blocks with 7 mbps internet

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/03/mistake-leaves...

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by jagger27 »

geoka9 wrote: post #130
Existenceblinks wrote: post #36

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I'm in a rural city in Thailand, fiber 2Gbps is $50 / mo. And this is just for normie. Like unimpressive.

I'm in a top 10 most expensive city in the world (Canada) and the best I can get for $50 is 80 Mbps (and even that is only available as a promotion that you can't get by simply going to the ISP's website and buying a plan).

I’m within 2km of Parliament and can’t get fibre. It’s disgusting.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by arcade79 »

antihero wrote: post #270
zhdc1 wrote: post #144

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> Can you share, at least vaguely, what was your work? We work with gis/satellite data. Nothing groundbreaking technically, but we aggregate it into products that are useful for social science researchers who aren’t comfortable with or don’t have the computing resources to use this data by themselves.

What exactly about gis/satellite data required such an insane uplink?

What exactly is insane about it?

I was surprised when my parents had 1Gbit in 2009. I was delighted when I could get 500Mbit in 2013. I'm slightly miffed that I don't even get 1Gbit in 2022. I literally laugh at providers attempting to convince me to get whatever with 10 or 20Mbit uplink speeds, in 2022l Yes, they exist.

Anyhow. What's insane about a 10Gbit uplink? I wired up my apartment for 1Gbit in 2001. I've been frustrated about home network speeds for 21 years. I do not understand why you consider 10Gbit insane.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by arcade79 »

nix23 wrote: post #349
sschueller wrote: post #184

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Technically Switzerland is a third world country according to the original definition.

You could also say what you meant. >>The term "Third World" arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

That's what he said.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by arcade79 »

AdrianB1 wrote: post #273
loudthing wrote: post #169

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I’ve never heard someone call their own country a “third world country”. Out of curiosity, which country are you referring to?

Not the person you are asking, but in Eastern Europe we also call our countries "third world"; I learned in the middle school about economic development and classification by that, it was nothing to be ashamed of. Even today being in EU we are considered second class citizens, not a problem with me.

Uhm, whut?

Doesn't make sense. The second world countries wouldn't drop the third world when realigning to first world.

First world: NATO aligned. Second world: Warsawa pact aligned. Third world: Non-aligned.

Sweden and Swtizerland are traditional third world countries.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by alsetmusic »

davidcsally wrote: post #365
kbenson wrote: post #353

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It is. Sonic in northern California. More places soon, but scaling out physical infrastructure build has its own learning curve and often larger lead times. :)

Just got hooked up in Oakland and loving it! Paying $70 less per month vs Comcast

Same. About six months ago I started see Sonic trucks all over the neighborhood, five or six at a time covering multiple blocks. I asked if they were installing Fiber and was told no. Not much later, a sales rep knocked on my door. I said yes to the service before he could even greet me. It's been great.
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