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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by kjs3 »

californical wrote: post #314
Stunting wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

Is it really stealing if they wouldn’t have ever paid for it in the first place? If it’s not easy to find and use on a subscription service that I already have, I’m just not gonna try to search for it or pay for it. What difference would it make if I pirated it and watched it anyways? (FWIW I personally don’t pirate anything, I just really don’t see the merit to the “stealing” argument)

Such is the state of ethics is the world. Some people can justify anything.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Nav_Panel »

hardwaregeek wrote: post #268
cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

I don't know how to phrase this nicely, but this is precisely the type of Hacker News nerd-blindness that I find amazing. It's "easier"? Is it? For young children who want to watch their kids shows and don't know what 4k means? For grandparents who want to see some k-dramas and have no clue about DRM or geo-locked? Sure, Netflix has issues and it's made some bad decisions, but let's not delude ourselves here. The gro…

I have a friend who pays $15 a month for a dedicated seedbox, with 1-click install of a browser-based torrent app + plex. He set up plex to use the remote torrent folder, then anything he downloads gets immediately listed on plex, streamable anywhere, supports chromecast, etc. Pretty cool and a _little_ harder than using a proper paid streaming site, but not a different order of magnitude. Hardest part is finding the seedbox company and also tracking down the right torrent for the show (the choices can be overwhelming).

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by 8note »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #58
CamelCaseName wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My belief is that, like any media, there is a massive backlog of good content. When you get through the part of the backlog you enjoy, you have to either wait for content you enjoy to come out (slow!) or explore less enjoyable (to you) content. Back in high school, I felt "behind" in my cultural wisdom, so I spent an entire summer watching a huge list of TV shows and movies. Now, shows I truly enjoy are few and far b…

My belief is that when I am 85 and barely functioning physically, I will have ample time to catch up on the "good content". I hear The Wire is/was a good show. We'll see....

There's one challenge with that. Your eyes might not work very well when you're 85

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by NearAP »

danans wrote: post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

I agree.

- I recently realized I had only turned on my TV just about 4 - 5 times in about 6 months and yet I was paying close to $140 per month, so I downgraded my cable subscription to the minimal (combined cable & internet is cheaper than only internet).

- Also realized I rarely watched Netflix (hadn't watched in months) cos I no longer found shows that I liked and I was paying $15.49 per month. And then I saw HBO Max was $9.99 a month. So I canceled Netflix and signed on to HBO Max. There's also the psychological part that HBO Max allows me to pay for the whole year upfront (Netflix doesn't) so I can close my eyes and just pay them $100 and be done with it.

- I also realized I rarely have time to watch long form content except for weekends. This is one advantage that Amazon Prime has - apart from it being 'free' to me since I already paid for prime, I can rent movies for $2.99 for those few times that I need to be 'entertained'. Maybe I spend $6 in one month and $0 in others. It's still better than $15.49 (or $140) without watching at all.

- It's possible that lots of people have a variation of these reasons. I understand that Netflix had to raise their prices given how much they were spending on content. It looks to me like they 'overspent' on content without taking into consideration that they would have to recoup the cost from increased subscription fees and this might not be palatable to their members given that there are now multiple alternatives

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Post by dymk »

Mindwipe wrote: post #265
canadaduane wrote: post #129

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Can you point specifically to what you don't like about it? Personally, my "least favorite feature" is that hovering (with mouse) over any video would auto-play. In other words, just by moving the mouse you would be under threat of accidentally distracting yourself. Maybe some people don't feel the same way, but for me, it was destabilizing to the point that I couldn't recall what it was I was searching for / interes…

You could just turn autoplay off in settings.

It's quite annoying to turn it off, you have to do it from a web browser.

Most people don't even know that it's an option. Horrible design for this particular feature's UX.

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Post by digisign »

Stunting wrote: post #291
cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

When you work for the devil, don't be surprised to become collateral damage.

Thinking of all the stealing they've done from the public domain it makes my blood boil. Charging top dollar for artists work that have been dead for decades is a disgrace. How about "stealing" from the public and renting it out in perpetuity... Winnie the Pooh, anyone?

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by me551ah »

The biggest problem Netflix has is content. When it first came out, it enjoyed a near monopoly and had access to content from every single major network. But as networks have started to roll out their own subscription services, Netflix is suddenly finding itself in a position where it lacks content. It has tried to become a content machine, but hasn’t been very successful at it. Netflix is a tech company and not a media company, and as streaming tech becomes commonplace, Netflix is losing its edge.

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Post by 8note »

bombcar wrote: post #96
lotsofpulp wrote: post #87

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> They were only in "FAANG" to make the acronym funny. https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-faang See “The origins of FAANG”. At some point, presumably because it is a catchy sounding acronym, people started using FAANG to mean large tech companies, or large tech companies with very high payrates.

FAANG or FANG without N becomes a very unfortunate acronym.

GAAF

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by me551ah »

cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

This is exactly what I use. Throw all this on a good quality seed box and you have your own machine on the cloud.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by brewdad »

sgarland wrote: post #318
hardwaregeek wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how to phrase this nicely, but this is precisely the type of Hacker News nerd-blindness that I find amazing. It's "easier"? Is it? For young children who want to watch their kids shows and don't know what 4k means? For grandparents who want to see some k-dramas and have no clue about DRM or geo-locked? Sure, Netflix has issues and it's made some bad decisions, but let's not delude ourselves here. The gro…

Agreed. While the *arrs are "easy" to set up once you have good knowledge of Kubernetes or at least Docker Compose, that's not exactly common. If you're using the native Windows clients, there's a pretty good chance you don't have a NAS set up (or at least not well), which means there's a decent chance you'll eventually have a hardware failure, and then be surprised when your media is suddenly gone. ZFS pools with fu…

Even just having a spare PC to run your media server is not normal. Never mind all of the technical knowledge needed to keep it all running smoothly.
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