The bottom is dropping out of Netflix • Hacker News Board

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by colechristensen » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:15 PM UTC

unboxingelf wrote: post #202

colechristensen wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The search term you're looking for is "seedbox".

I have heard this term and briefly looked into it. My takeaway was it’s a vps with prebaked software/config offered by shady looking providers. Is that roughly correct or did I get lost in adwords?

Basically, you'll find ones with fast storage with big storage for reasonable prices and that are... explicitly sanctioning this use case. And I'd bet the competent ones specifically design their network and client settings for good performance. In professional settings getting good large storage performance is sometimes a struggle or expensive.

I've thought about using them for non-shady data storage and transfer given the price and performance. Nothing sensitive which wasn't encrypted, obviously.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by orangepurple » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:15 PM UTC

rnd0 wrote: post #271

ParksNet wrote: post #175

"The woke mind virus is making Netflix unwatchable" Elon Musk, April 2022. Accurate.

"the blue bus travels over denmark" rnd0, April 2022. Also gibberish. I mean, as long as we're going to be spewing content-free sentences I might as well get mine in. "Woke" isn't a useful term because today in 2022 it basically means "anything a conservative doesn't like". "Woke mind virus" is particularly egregious -that's pure hyperbole without even a pretense of meaning. The problem with Netflix in the main isn't…

Since you assert that "woke" isn't a useful term because today in 2022 it basically means "anything a conservative doesn't like" and Elon Musk uses the term liberally, do you agree that Elon is not a conservative?

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by dinobones » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

hardwaregeek wrote: post #268

cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

I don't know how to phrase this nicely, but this is precisely the type of Hacker News nerd-blindness that I find amazing. It's "easier"? Is it? For young children who want to watch their kids shows and don't know what 4k means? For grandparents who want to see some k-dramas and have no clue about DRM or geo-locked? Sure, Netflix has issues and it's made some bad decisions, but let's not delude ourselves here. The gro…

It is extremely tired as well. Any time there is a post about Netflix, or some streaming service, I always predict there will be someone in the comments section talking about their “sweet, open source Unix based media server” and how much better it is.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Stunting » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

californical wrote: post #314

Stunting wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

Is it really stealing if they wouldn’t have ever paid for it in the first place? If it’s not easy to find and use on a subscription service that I already have, I’m just not gonna try to search for it or pay for it. What difference would it make if I pirated it and watched it anyways? (FWIW I personally don’t pirate anything, I just really don’t see the merit to the “stealing” argument)

Yes it is really stealing.

You want something. You don't want to pay for it. You take it without paying.

That's stealing.

If you really truly didn't want to watch it, you wouldn't steal it.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by bin_bash » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

californical wrote: post #314

Stunting wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

Is it really stealing if they wouldn’t have ever paid for it in the first place? If it’s not easy to find and use on a subscription service that I already have, I’m just not gonna try to search for it or pay for it. What difference would it make if I pirated it and watched it anyways? (FWIW I personally don’t pirate anything, I just really don’t see the merit to the “stealing” argument)

> Is it really stealing if they wouldn’t have ever paid for it in the first place?

Since when does it matter if I would've paid for it? If someone steals a Mercedes from a dealer is it not stealing if they wouldn't have bought it anyways?

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by isatty » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

Stunting wrote: post #291

cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

Well then let us pay for shit in a convenient way. Like OP said, if there’s something like steam or Spotify then I’d gladly pay for it. I still rent movies weekly on AppleTV because it’s a convenient experience. Geo gating, shitty compression and making us choose between n apps is not the way.

Also, we’re going to end up with shitty generated content regardless of my $10. If you’re making strong statements like OP is stealing from _you_, then go advocate for change. You’re in the industry.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by orangepurple » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

gorwell wrote: post #337

rnd0 wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the blue bus travels over denmark" rnd0, April 2022. Also gibberish. I mean, as long as we're going to be spewing content-free sentences I might as well get mine in. "Woke" isn't a useful term because today in 2022 it basically means "anything a conservative doesn't like". "Woke mind virus" is particularly egregious -that's pure hyperbole without even a pretense of meaning. The problem with Netflix in the main isn't…

The "woke" all have the same opinions and aggressively attack any deviation. It acts like a parasite or virus that contains a payload of dogma replicating itself from host to host. It turns rational people into zombies, so mind virus describes it very well. Challenges to the dogma are considered dangerous as it threatens the ability for the virus to spread. You're right that the virus could be a different variant, li…

It may not be unfair to claim that it's "everything conservatives don't agree with." While that may or may not be true, it more specifically refers to a type of hivemind.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by fullstop » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:17 PM UTC

orangepurple wrote: post #320

fullstop wrote: post #26

I get Netflix through my cell phone carrier, otherwise I would drop it. I don't watch a lot of content, and I find myself watching HBO Max more often when I do. With that being said, I might still buy some $NFLX. I thought that they were dead once before with the whole Qwikster thing, but investing in the company then would have been a very smart move.

How much are you paying for a carrier plan if Netflix is bundled with it?

$135/mo (after taxes, etc) for unlimited data and four lines.

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Post by vikingerik » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:17 PM UTC

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #77

sudden_dystopia wrote: post #22

Interesting analysis. I find it interesting that so many people spend so much time watching tv in the first place. Growing up, I was one of those people but about a decade ago I lost interest in pretty much anything on television. There are certain shows that I will watch on occasion that get me hooked, but I usually struggle to find anything that is actually worth my time and end up just turning the tv off after sur…

I only use Netflix and Prime, and both feel really stale to me. It's all "content" - good to very good production values designed to fill a gap and appeal to a demographic. But very repetitive and production line, with no passion projects, nothing too arty or quirky, nothing outside of the box, no surprises. Some of it is quite watchable, but none of it is exciting or fresh. It's all some combination of stock soapy c…

I feel what you say too, that all the content feels samey. But I'll offer a suggestion that works for me: try some animation. That's where you get the passion projects that can feel different. Animated characters and settings can be far more expressive and varied and fresh, compared to the stock sameyness you get from live action.

The new She-Ra on Netflix was the best thing I've watched in quite some time. It's not a kiddie show, it works for all ages, think like Pixar movies. Other great cartoons across a variety of streaming services: Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Owl House, Star Trek Lower Decks, also the more mainstream Bob's Burgers. If you want something fresh to watch, try animation.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by christophilus » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:17 PM UTC

Stunting wrote: post #291

cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

I don't pirate (out of principle), but I also basically don't stream because I'm a Linux user and your streaming platforms suck big fat ones.

If you want people to "stop stealing our shit", you should really address how crappy the distribution system is.

- Can't get it in __ country

- Can only watch it on __ closed-source devices

- Can't watch it offline

- A is only available on platform 1, B is only on platform 2, and I don't want either crappy platform

Anyway, as I said, I don't really watch movies much anymore, and haven't seen any of the ones on your IMDB page, I mostly play games or read books these days, but I'd probably watch more if the distribution system was better.