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The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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The biggest issue is there is too much competition and too many streaming services. When Netflix was the only game in town it was a no brainer. However I'm currently paying HBO, Hulu, Disney, Apple and Amazon along with Netflix. each platform has something worth watching, but not all are worth paying for. I should cancel Apple+ and I most of whats on Amazon is terrible but it comes with Prime already. I still think Netflix is worth keeping compared to some of the other services but they keep raising the price.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

>You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k")

Where do you think pirates get their source content from? Sure if it's a movie with a blu-ray release there's a 4k high bitrate source, but if it's a netflix original the "stream compressed 4k" is the only version available.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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post #21

The entire TV/movie streaming industry is pushing the world back to a cable-like one, and that's already pushing people back to pirating. There are a lot of people who were content to pay for a couple services, but even without any sports, you can easily be paying for 3 streaming services for ~$60, just to get content that used to be on Netflix (plus whatever's been released since). Once you add one or two sports, yo…

> you can easily be paying for 3 streaming services for ~$60 You can easily buy and cancel what you want when you want, so that is the not cable-like development. I do not see why people should fee they are owed all the content in the world for $x. The important part is the creator/curator/seller of the content and the purchaser of the content are not held hostage by a monopoly/monopsony distributor.

> I do not see why people should fee they are owed all the content in the world for $x.

Why do actors and movie studios, producers, and glorified CDNs/streaming services think they are entitled to tens of millions of dollars for producing a TV show? They create mindless entertainment for society and yet they are so highly compensated. Yeah, I don't feel like I owe them anything.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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post #102

Lots of people are complaining about terrible content on Netflix. Years ago, Netflix was praised for its "long tail"--basically it could have content that appealed to people with diverse interests. But it seems like people now see the long tail as useless junk and would prefer a shorter tail with more concentrated quality.

Netflix lost a lot of good long tail content when networks pulled their old content to form the foundations of their own streaming platforms. For example, The Office.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Interesting analysis. I find it interesting that so many people spend so much time watching tv in the first place. Growing up, I was one of those people but about a decade ago I lost interest in pretty much anything on television. There are certain shows that I will watch on occasion that get me hooked, but I usually struggle to find anything that is actually worth my time and end up just turning the tv off after sur…

Under all that muck, you aren't seeing the nuggets. A great example is Severance which came out just this year (Apple+) and it's a masterpiece, from cinematography to high concept to acting. We live in a golden age because there is something for everyone, but that also means there is a lot of trash. Luckily, there are also more gems available now than ever before.

Sure there's good content, but I'm not going to commit to yet another monthly fee. If there was a way to buy a season of a particular show for a one-time fee then I might do that. Amazon offers that option for some shows.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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I see a lot of focus on the "lost 200 000 subscribers", but less acknowledgement that they kicked 700 000 Russians off the subscriber list, meaning they actually grew by 500 000 subscribers (still well short of wall streets expectation of 2.5 million.) So in one sense it's a one-time drop, not a trend. Does Netflix have more competition than before? sure. Is it growing as fast as before? no, especially as they reach…

What? I read that as losing 200,000 subscribers not counting kicking off Russians so the actual number would be losing 900,000 subscribers.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

But technically that's stealing. I still feel a pang of guilt if I do it so I just use the free streaming services.

technically it's "copyright infringement", not "stealing"

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Having not touched this since early days of TPB, is there a decent overview to approaches in 2022 you could point me to? E.g. has torrenting moved to the cloud or are most running vpns? Asking for a friend.

rarbg.to is the popular index site. Bittorrent, the purple client. My smart TVs can access my PC's dedicated media directory - which took a bit of fiddling to get right. The big drawback is a lack of subtitles, unless they are baked in to the rip. I still have Netflix and Prime Video (because of AMZ Prime). I have thought about dropping Netflix more than a few times after the price hike.

I’d recommend checking your local library for their DVDs. Mine has a pretty good collection.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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post #38

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HBO Max is phenomenal. They seem to be going a different route (pushing quality) than Netflix (algorithms generating low-budget reality shows).

It's slightly possible that HBO has a longer track record making good content than Netflix does; not everything can be solved by throwing money at it.

HBO Max started out with decades of inexpensive, quality content via Warner. Netflix had to either buy or build content.

Netflix did poach proven talent, but even then, it was people like Shonda Rimes and the guys who botched Game of Thrones.

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